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   richard to Harry K   
   Re: 670 pounds of cocaine found stashed    
   30 Jan 14 09:32:39   
   
   From: noreply@example.com   
      
   On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 22:38:18 -0800 (PST), Harry K wrote:   
      
   > On Monday, January 27, 2014 12:42:00 PM UTC-8, richard wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 04:52:45 +0100, Andy Bernstein wrote:   
   >   
   >>> SAN CLEMENTE, Calif. (KABC) -- Nearly 700 pounds of cocaine was   
   >>> found stashed in the trunk and backseat of a vehicle in San   
   >>> Clemente Friday.   
   >   
   >>> The unidentified suspect was stopped as part of a routine check   
   >>> at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Station in the   
   >>> northbound lanes of the 5 Freeway around 1:15 a.m.   
   >   
   >>> Officials say the 54-year-old driver was wearing a suit and tie   
   >>> when stopped. Agents said they became suspicious when the   
   >>> suspect claimed he was a U.S. citizen.   
   >   
   >> The caee should get tossed.   
   >> There no federal laws requiring a person who was born in the USA to provide   
   >> proof.   
   >   
   >> Looking "illegal" never cut it in a court of law.   
   >> I've seen dozens of BP agents who appear to be Mexican and speak fluent   
   >> spanish.   
   >   
   >> Not enough probable cause to detain certainly not enough to proceed with a   
   >> search.   
   >   
   > IIANM the USSC has ruled that checkpoints for DUI, drugs, etc. are legal   
   provided that either _every_ vehicle be stopped or random vehicles, i.e, every   
   10th or the like bestopped - profiling not allowed.   
   >   
   > During those stops checking papers, etc. is legal.   
   >   
   > Harry K   
      
   True. But the point is, the man was detained because the agent did not   
   believe he was a US citizen.   
   That is not probable cause.   
   How did the agent determine this by asking one simple question?   
   How a person looks has never been probable cause.   
      
   However, the 1951 law gives BP agents the right to search a vehicle for   
   drugs without a warrant.   
      
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