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|    richard to Harry K    |
|    Re: 670 pounds of cocaine found stashed     |
|    30 Jan 14 09:32:39    |
      From: noreply@example.com              On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 22:38:18 -0800 (PST), Harry K wrote:              > On Monday, January 27, 2014 12:42:00 PM UTC-8, richard wrote:       >> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 04:52:45 +0100, Andy Bernstein wrote:       >       >>> SAN CLEMENTE, Calif. (KABC) -- Nearly 700 pounds of cocaine was       >>> found stashed in the trunk and backseat of a vehicle in San       >>> Clemente Friday.       >       >>> The unidentified suspect was stopped as part of a routine check       >>> at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Station in the       >>> northbound lanes of the 5 Freeway around 1:15 a.m.       >       >>> Officials say the 54-year-old driver was wearing a suit and tie       >>> when stopped. Agents said they became suspicious when the       >>> suspect claimed he was a U.S. citizen.       >       >> The caee should get tossed.       >> There no federal laws requiring a person who was born in the USA to provide       >> proof.       >       >> Looking "illegal" never cut it in a court of law.       >> I've seen dozens of BP agents who appear to be Mexican and speak fluent       >> spanish.       >       >> Not enough probable cause to detain certainly not enough to proceed with a       >> search.       >       > IIANM the USSC has ruled that checkpoints for DUI, drugs, etc. are legal       provided that either _every_ vehicle be stopped or random vehicles, i.e, every       10th or the like bestopped - profiling not allowed.       >       > During those stops checking papers, etc. is legal.       >       > Harry K              True. But the point is, the man was detained because the agent did not       believe he was a US citizen.       That is not probable cause.       How did the agent determine this by asking one simple question?       How a person looks has never been probable cause.              However, the 1951 law gives BP agents the right to search a vehicle for       drugs without a warrant.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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