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   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: noreply@example.com   
      
   On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:55:28 -0500, Sancho Panza wrote:   
      
   > On 1/28/2014 1:25 AM, richard wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 22:50:06 -0500, Sancho Panza wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 1/27/2014 3:42 PM, richard wrote:   
   >>>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 04:52:45 +0100, Andy Bernstein wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> SAN CLEMENTE, Calif. (KABC) -- Nearly 700 pounds of cocaine was   
   >>>>> found stashed in the trunk and backseat of a vehicle in San   
   >>>>> Clemente Friday.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The unidentified suspect was stopped as part of a routine check   
   >>>>> at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Station in the   
   >>>>> northbound lanes of the 5 Freeway around 1:15 a.m.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Officials say the 54-year-old driver was wearing a suit and tie   
   >>>>> when stopped. Agents said they became suspicious when the   
   >>>>> suspect claimed he was a U.S. citizen.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The caee should get tossed.   
   >>>> There no federal laws requiring a person who was born in the USA to   
   provide   
   >>>> proof.   
   >>>> Looking "illegal" never cut it in a court of law.   
   >>>> I've seen dozens of BP agents who appear to be Mexican and speak fluent   
   >>>> spanish.   
   >>>> Not enough probable cause to detain certainly not enough to proceed with a   
   >>>> search.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There was a movie out years ago where they showed a Mexican guy and his   
   kid   
   >>>> out enjoyhing a drive. He gets stopped by a cop.   
   >>>> "Ill need to see your visa and passport sir."   
   >>>> "Really? Since when do US citizens need them? I was born and raosed in   
   >>>> Colorado!".   
   >>>   
   >>> Movies don't mean squat. Read the article. The boxes were clearly   
   >>> visible on the back seat.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Boxes on a seat is not probable cause.   
   >> If the officer could see what he reasonably believed to be marijuana   
   >> leaves, yeah then maybe he had probable cause.   
   >> All of the major checkpoints I've been through all have dogs.   
   >> If the dog made a positive hit, then that is probable cause.   
   >>   
   >> If the officer smelled marijuana, that could also be probable cause.   
   >>   
   >> You can not be legally detained simply for the way you look.   
   >> That was the officer's excuse for the stop.   
   >   
   > That is not stated in the article.   
   >   
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   It is called "profiling" and that excuse is illegal, even to BP agents.   
      
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