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   From: warren.oates@gmail.com   
      
   In article <2014030117171497644-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,   
    Savageduck  wrote:   
      
   > On 2014-03-02 01:01:27 +0000, Your Name  said:   
   >   
   > > In article <2014030116000189961-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,   
   > > Savageduck  wrote:   
   > >> On 2014-03-01 19:43:47 +0000, Liam O'Connor    
   said:   
   > >>   
   > >>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 23:35:03 -0500, nospam wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>> there are id cards that *aren't* driver's licenses.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> You know what's funny about that?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Years ago, I wanted an identity card in California,   
   > >>> so that I wouldn't have to give out my Driver License Number   
   > >>> to anyone asking ...   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Guess what number they use for the California ID?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Yup. Same number.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> The ONLY difference is the word 'license' on a driver's   
   > >>> license in California.   
   > >>   
   > >> What did you expect? It is the DMV issuing both ID &/or DL.   
   > >> ...and both have expiry dates and have to be renewed every 6 years   
   > >> (every 10 years if you are 62+ years old).   
   > >   
   > > That seems a bit backwards. Here in New Zealand the Drivers License is   
   > > valid for 10 years (then you have to pass an eye-sight test to renew   
   > > it) until a senior citizen age which I can't remember, and then the   
   > > renewal become more frequent (which from memory at some stage also   
   > > includes re-sitting the practical driving test with an examiner).   
   > >   
   > > Of course in ye olde days the Drivers License was valid for life.   
   >   
   > In California both the DL (at any age) and ID are valid for 6 years and   
   > are subject to renewal.   
   > Retesting for a DL is going to be dependent on several factors which   
   > could be anything from moving traffic violations to reported medical or   
   > mental health conditions.   
   >   
   > The exception is for a Senior ID (62+) which is valid for 10 years.   
      
   In Ontario the province will issue an ID card to people without driver's   
   permits, but you can't have both. If I want a plain Ontario ID card, I   
   have to turn in my driver's permit. Of course, we also have "enhanced"   
   driver's licenses which have citizenship stuff on a chip that the   
   Americans will accept at the border in lieu of a passport (not by air,   
   though). I had one for a while, until the feds started issuing 10-year   
   passports, which works out cheaper.   
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