From: turnkey@q.com   
      
   On Sunday, March 2, 2014 10:43:13 AM UTC-8, nospam wrote:   
   > In article <11164aac-9e93-4e02-8dd4-f4136bca5703@googlegroups.com>,   
   > Harry K wrote:   
      
   > > > > CP makers to render them inactive while vehicles are in motion or order   
   > > > > manufacturers to limit disstacting technology in cars and trucks.   
      
   > > > yet another dumb idea that doesn't address the actual problem, stupid   
   > > > irresponsible drivers.   
      
   > > But you conveniently ignore the stone cold FACT that it removes a whole   
   bunch   
   > > of distracting things for the idiots to play with.   
      
   > it doesn't do anything of the sort.   
      
   Perhaps you could try rereading what you just replid to and dthis time try to   
   understand it. Nothing there says anything about removing ALL distractiosn,   
   just the the ones involving playing iwht your toys.   
      
   > a shitty driver is going to be distracted no matter what anyone does.   
   > if you disable their phone, they'll do something *else*, like use an   
   > ipod, fiddle with cds and the cd player, drink coffee, eat a sandwich,   
      
   Odd, I thought that an Ipod is included in 'electronic play toys' And most of   
   the other things you mention take only a few seconds.   
      
   > read paper maps or a newspaper or many other things.   
      
   > the problem is shitty drivers. fix *that* (which is not simple).   
      
   And who said anything different.   
      
   > > > having a phone render itself inactive means *passengers* will be   
   > > > affected because *their* phones won't work.   
      
   > > Tough shit. Anyone who _really needs_ to use the phone, gps play toy, etc.   
   > > can pull over and stop. Passengers can request the driver do so.   
      
   > that's absolute bullshit.   
      
   Oh? Care to explain why the driver can't pull over?   
      
   > > > rendering a phone inactive because the vehicle is in motion is stupid,   
      
   > > Says a guy who sees nothing wrong with playing with electronic toys while   
   > > he's supposed to be paying attention to the road.   
      
   > nowhere did i say any such thing.   
      
   Your post clearly lead to that conclusion.   
      
   > > > especially since there are a lot of very useful apps that help make for   
   > > > safer driving, including gps navigation apps and many more.   
      
   > > I refer you to PAYING ATTENTION TO DRIVING and stopping if you want to use   
   your toys.   
      
   > what you don't get and likely never will is the devices (not toys) do   
   > not require the user to fiddle with them.   
      
   Odd, tell me how you can text, talk on a phone, look at a gps or other mapping   
   device, etc. WITHOUT fooling with them. Just looking at a dashboard screen   
   takes you attention and eyes off the driving.   
      
   > the driver can pay attention to driving while the device does its thing   
   > on its own.   
      
   So who just who told it to 'do its thing' to begin with?   
   And after it "does its thing" you just ignore it, sure you do.   
      
   > another thing you don't get and likely never will is that a lot of cars   
   > already have distracting devices built into them, including radio/cd   
   > player, gps navigation system and more.   
   > are you going to require that *those* be disabled too?   
      
   Perhaps you should reread Rockerfeller's comment about manufacturers reducing   
   the number of such items?   
      
   You might also note that the suggestion or disabling the play toys is   
   ROCKERFELLER'S.   
      
   Bottom line you are the poster child for people who think playing with things   
   not associated with the driving task is not a problem.   
      
   'I'm a good driver and can text, talk, adjust a gps, etc. just fine, it is the   
   other divers who can't' seems to be the group you are in.   
      
   Harry K   
      
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