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Harry K wrote:
> > > > > CP makers to render them inactive while vehicles are in motion or
> > > > > order
> > > > > manufacturers to limit disstacting technology in cars and trucks.
>
> > > > yet another dumb idea that doesn't address the actual problem, stupid
> > > > irresponsible drivers.
>
> > > But you conveniently ignore the stone cold FACT that it removes a whole
> > > bunch of distracting things for the idiots to play with.
>
> > it doesn't do anything of the sort.
>
> Perhaps you could try rereading what you just replid to and dthis time try to
> understand it. Nothing there says anything about removing ALL distractiosn,
> just the the ones involving playing iwht your toys.
a radio is not vital to travel, nor is a cd player, therefore they too
are toys. if you want to ban toys, then you must also want to ban
radios and cd players.
you also need to get over this playing with toys nonsense. smartphones
are not toys and drivers do not fiddle with them as if they were.
in fact, it's quite the opposite. many of the driving related apps will
increase driver safety.
> > a shitty driver is going to be distracted no matter what anyone does.
> > if you disable their phone, they'll do something *else*, like use an
> > ipod, fiddle with cds and the cd player, drink coffee, eat a sandwich,
>
> Odd, I thought that an Ipod is included in 'electronic play toys' '
how do you propose to disable an ipod remotely? or maybe the person has
a portable cd player.
this ought to be good.
> And most of
> the other things you mention take only a few seconds.
a few seconds is enough to travel almost the length of a football field
at 60 mph. a lot can happen in that distance.
if you are ok with a few seconds to fiddle with the cd player or drink
coffee, but not ok with a gps which needs no time at all because it has
voice prompts, then your entire rant falls flat.
you don't get to pick and choose to ban only certain devices.
distractions are distractions.
> > read paper maps or a newspaper or many other things.
>
> > the problem is shitty drivers. fix *that* (which is not simple).
>
> And who said anything different.
you did by saying the devices are unsafe.
it's the drivers that are the problem.
using the devices when inappropriate is a symptom.
> > > > having a phone render itself inactive means *passengers* will be
> > > > affected because *their* phones won't work.
>
> > > Tough shit. Anyone who _really needs_ to use the phone, gps play toy,
> > > etc. can pull over and stop. Passengers can request the driver do so.
>
> > that's absolute bullshit.
>
> Oh? Care to explain why the driver can't pull over?
once you explain how a passenger using a device is going to affect the
driver.
this ought to be good too.
> > > > rendering a phone inactive because the vehicle is in motion is stupid,
>
> > > Says a guy who sees nothing wrong with playing with electronic toys while
> > > he's supposed to be paying attention to the road.
>
> > nowhere did i say any such thing.
>
> Your post clearly lead to that conclusion.
nonsense.
> > > > especially since there are a lot of very useful apps that help make for
> > > > safer driving, including gps navigation apps and many more.
>
> > > I refer you to PAYING ATTENTION TO DRIVING and stopping if you want to
> > > use your toys.
>
> > what you don't get and likely never will is the devices (not toys) do
> > not require the user to fiddle with them.
>
> Odd, tell me how you can text, talk on a phone, look at a gps or other
> mapping device, etc. WITHOUT fooling with them.
looking at a gps requires no fiddling.
it announces in a clear voice "take the next exit" or "upcoming right
turn, 1/2 mile". you don't even have to look at it, let alone fiddle.
it's as if you had a person sitting next to you who knows where to go.
having a gps is much safer than trying to figure out where to go based
on street signs, which in some places may not be behind trees or
otherwise obscured and in some places, not there at all.
> Just looking at a dashboard
> screen takes you attention and eyes off the driving.
then let's ban dashboards too.
after all, we can't have anything take one's eyes off the driving.
> > the driver can pay attention to driving while the device does its thing
> > on its own.
>
> So who just who told it to 'do its thing' to begin with?
it's done *before* embarking on a trip. not during.
> And after it "does its thing" you just ignore it, sure you do.
obviously you've never used a gps or you wouldn't say such stupid
things.
> > another thing you don't get and likely never will is that a lot of cars
> > already have distracting devices built into them, including radio/cd
> > player, gps navigation system and more.
> > are you going to require that *those* be disabled too?
>
> Perhaps you should reread Rockerfeller's comment about manufacturers reducing
> the number of such items?
>
> You might also note that the suggestion or disabling the play toys is
> ROCKERFELLER'S.
they aren't play toys and it's a colossally stupid and totally
impractical suggestion.
> Bottom line you are the poster child for people who think playing with things
> not associated with the driving task is not a problem.
nonsense.
i'm interested in solutions based on facts, not let's ban everything
because someone doesn't like it.
> 'I'm a good driver and can text, talk, adjust a gps, etc. just fine, it is
the other divers
> who can't' seems to be the group you are in.
i never said anything about texting or adjusting a gps while driving.
as for talking, that can happen without a phone. it's called passengers.
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