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   XPost: misc.legal, ca.driving, ba.transportation   
   From: scharf.steven@geemail.com   
      
   On 3/6/2014 9:42 AM, Liam O'Connor wrote:   
   > LEGAL QUESTION:   
   > What is the process to have an illegal STOP sign removed?   
   >   
   > DETAILS:   
   > The three multi-way STOP signs in question are easily viewed   
   > by pasting the following GPS coordinates into Google Maps:   
   >    37.291379,-121.958411   
   >   
   > The flagrantly illegal multi-way STOP signs are those facing   
   > each other on Llewellyn Ave, which is abutted at that point   
   > by Queens Ct.   
   >   
   > I live near that intersection, and I firmly believe that   
   > those multi-way stop signs can't possibly be legal.   
   >   
   > But, how do I prove that they were illegally placed?   
   > And, what is the process to have them removed, by law?   
   >   
   > MORE DETAILS:   
   > I believe that the people who authorized the placement of those   
   > two multi-way STOP signs themselved did not respect the law in   
   > their very act of illegally authorizing their placement.   
      
   The city will argue that the signs were not placed to control speed but   
   to try to get drivers to not use Latimer and Llewellyn to get to the   
   post office or to avoid the Hamilton/Winchester intersection. But even   
   if they were placed to control speed, the fact that using stop signs to   
   stop speeding is discouraged, it's not illegal.   
      
   It's likely that residents of that area lobbied for the stop signs when   
   the post office was moved from Latimer (east of Winchester) over to   
   Hamilton and Llewellyn.   
      
   Once ill-advised stop signs are installed it's extremely hard to get   
   them removed, but these stop signs were not ill-advised.   
      
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