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   Liam O'Connor to sms   
   Re: What is the process to have an illeg   
   06 Mar 14 15:40:38   
   
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   XPost: misc.legal, ca.driving, ba.transportation   
   From: liamoconnor@example.com   
      
   On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 06:52:30 -0800, sms wrote:   
      
   > the fact that using stop signs to stop speeding is discouraged,   
   > it's not illegal.   
      
   Hi SMS,   
      
   I usually see you over in a.h.r, so it's nice to see you here,   
   on the legal side of things.   
      
   I don't disagree with you that the signs are, most likely,   
   misused as speed limitors, instead of as STOP signs.   
      
   But, such misuse is precisely why the MUTCD says not to misuse   
   STOP signs.   
      
   Nobody who knows anything about the purpose of STOP signs   
   would treat them with anything other than sheer disdain.   
      
   I, myself, blow through them all the time, as I treat them   
   with disdain, which is the only way they should be treated   
   (IMHO).   
      
   Nonetheless, your analysis is probably correct if the post   
   office was moved in the 1990s, since the traffic engineer   
   in Campbell told me that no traffic study was ever performed.   
      
   Given that all reasonable people would agree that:   
   1. The signs are not being used as STOP signs   
   2. The signs were not placed by the "normal" process   
      
   The question is what do I do to get them removed?   
      
   Is there an existing process, where such things are reviewed   
   by someone 'other' than the town of Campbell itself?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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