XPost: comp.mobile.android, comp.mobile.ipad   
   From: nospam@nospam.invalid   
      
   In article , Jolly Roger   
    wrote:   
      
   > >>> What happens on grossly underposted limited access highways is that   
   > >>> drivers like Jolly here form packs that impede flow.   
   > >>   
   > >> I'd like to understand your logic better. Are you suggesting that every   
   > >> 55 MPH highway in America us grossly under posted, or just the ones on   
   > >> which I personally travel? Are you suggesting that those exceeding   
   > >> posted speed limits do not form packs? Also, how do you know the road   
   > >> conditions of the highways I typically travel? Are you secretly   
   > >> following me, or do you have telepathy and know which highways I travel?   
   > >> Please explain.   
   > >   
   > > Your opinion of the PSL is irrelevant. You unwittingly described the   
   > > conditions of a grossly underposted limited access highway. The   
   > > condition you describe does not happen where the road and PSL match   
   > > well.   
   >   
   > Seems like you are saying the mere fact that people speed is an   
   > indication that speed limits are under what they should be. Is that   
   > what you mean?   
      
   short version, yes.   
      
   the safest speed is the 85th percentile speed, and quite often, roads   
   are posted below that, sometimes by quite a bit.   
      
   also, the posted speed limit has little effect on actual traffic flow,   
   far less than what people think.   
      
   > >>> Faster drivers then go from pack to pack, neededing to find a way   
   > >>> through each pack, often doing a Claybrook weave.   
   > >   
   > >> So the dangerous behavior I describe above is necessary in your view?   
   > >> Strange. Do you prioritize speed over safety?   
   > >   
   > > Seems in your opinion dangerous is going faster than you.   
   >   
   > Anyone with an average IQ can see that I described many behaviors   
   > besides just going faster than the posted speed limit above. I   
   > disapprove of all of the dangerous behaviors I describe above. Trying to   
   > ignore the rest to prove a point is only going to make you look foolish,   
   > as if you have no real argument. Wanna try again?   
      
   what you described is due to an underposted speed limit and/or drivers   
   driving slower than prevailing flow and not yielding to other traffic.   
      
   > >>> When 55mph was imposed Claybrook stated it   
   > >>> was safer to force faster drivers to slow down and weave through   
   > >>> blockages of slow drivers who can't be bothered to keep right except to   
   > >>> pass.   
   > >   
   > >> Experience shows it is the idiots described above who can't be bothered   
   > >> to keep right. They stay firmly implanted in the left lane, expecting   
   > >> every other drive on the fucking planet to get out of their way,   
   > >> regardless of posted speed limits or safety implications.   
   > >   
   > > Wasn't it you that was complaining earlier they passed on the right?   
   >   
   > They stick to the left lane going way faster than everyone else, and   
   > then after tailgating someone in the left lane for a while and getting   
   > all pissy that people aren't getting out of their way since they own the   
   > road, they swerve in front of other drivers in the right lane to pass. I   
   > see it happen a lot, yep.   
      
   the problem is that driver is not yielding to faster traffic.   
      
   keep right except to pass.   
      
   > > Anyway, keep right except to pass. You shouldn't have to get out of   
   > > their way because you shouldn't have been in their way in the first   
   > > place.   
   >   
   > I almost never drive in the left lane except to pass.   
      
   by your own admission, you're not in the right lane at the slower   
   speeds.   
      
   > The idiots I describe above are often driving faster than all other   
   > traffic, but in a pack in multiple lanes. When they encounter vehicles   
   > in front of them, they make attempts to pass in *whichever* lane they   
   > can, including the left, right, and middle lanes - and in a dangerous   
   > fashion. No matter which lane you are in, you may very well find   
   > yourself having to react to the idiot tailgating you or swerving in   
   > front of you. I see it happen on a regular basis.   
      
   'passing in a dangerous fashion' means what, exactly?   
      
   keep in mind that your disapproval does not mean it's dangerous.   
      
   and if there's a 'pack in multiple lanes', then the prevailing speed is   
   faster than what you think it is.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)