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   From: nospam@nospam.invalid   
      
   In article , Jolly Roger   
    wrote:   
      
   > >>>>>>> Faster drivers then go from pack to pack, neededing to find a   
   > >>>>>>> way through each pack, often doing a Claybrook weave.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>> So the dangerous behavior I describe above is necessary in your   
   > >>>>>> view?  Strange. Do you prioritize speed over safety?   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Seems in your opinion dangerous is going faster than you.   
   > >>>   
   > >>>> Anyone with an average IQ can see that I described many behaviors   
   > >>>> besides just going faster than the posted speed limit above. I   
   > >>>> disapprove of all of the dangerous behaviors I describe above.   
   > >>>> Trying to ignore the rest to prove a point is only going to make   
   > >>>> you look foolish, as if you have no real argument. Wanna try again?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Again, if you kept right except to pass they would simply pass you   
   > >>> by on the left.   
   > >   
   > >> Oh, if only life were that simple. No, even when you are in the right   
   > >> lane, someone may cut in front of you at a dangerous distance, or   
   > >> tail gate you to try to push you to go faster so thy can get around   
   > >> someone in the middle lane. There are all sorts of dangers that   
   > >> driving like a fast and furious fan presents, and none of them are   
   > >> the fault of the people who are driving safely. It really does seem   
   > >> like you want to blame everything on the people who *aren't* acting   
   > >> like complete idiots.   
   > >   
   > > Again, keep right except to pass.   
   >   
   > I and lots of others do just that - and yet the problem remains. Imagine   
   > that.   
      
   if the problem remains, then not everyone is doing what you say they're   
   doing.   
      
   > > Nobody is going to cut right if everyone keeps right except to pass.   
   >   
   > Wrong. I see people cut right all the time when they could use the left   
   > lane, usually out of impatience or similar stupidity.   
      
   'all the time' ??   
      
   below and in other posts, you said it's the exception.   
      
   try to keep your story consistent.   
      
   > > Perhaps you could also not drive off the right rear corner of left   
   > > lane blockers?   
   >   
   > I don't make it a habit to do that. Apparently you believe my   
   > observation of dangerous behavior of others must somehow, some way be my   
   > own fault.   
      
   based on your description, you are either grossly exaggerating what's   
   going on or you are definitely part of the problem. maybe both.   
      
   > > Also realize that the left lane blocker is the root cause of your   
   > > complaint.   
   >   
   > Nope. The "left lane blocker" is not causing others to make dangerous   
   > maneuvers.   
      
   yes they are. that's one reason why it's illegal.   
      
   > There is no reason at all someone couldn't choose to handle   
   > that situation in a safe manner that doesn't put others' lives at risk.   
      
   going around an llh is not putting anyone at risk unless it's done in a   
   reckless manner, which is unlikely. it does happen on occasion but it's   
   certainly not the usual case. such a driver does not need an llh to   
   make an unsafe maneuver.   
      
   > Your position seem to be that it is excusable and okay to behave   
   > dangerously on the road if you have an excuse. Sorry, but you're wrong.   
      
   that's not what he's saying.   
      
   > I can only conclude from your responses that you one of the fools I see   
   > behaving in this manner, since you've done nothing but try to make   
   > excuses for their bad behavior and blame others for it. If so, we can   
   > only hope you are caught behaving badly, or perhaps end up wrecking your   
   > car as a result of your dangerous behavior (hopefully without hurting   
   > other innocent drivers on the road at the same time) so you'll actually   
   > learn from it.   
      
   nice bit of projection there. unfortunately, i doubt you realize it.   
      
   > >>>> They stick to the left lane going way faster than everyone else,   
   > >>>> and then after tailgating someone in the left lane for a while and   
   > >>>> getting all pissy that people aren't getting out of their way since   
   > >>>> they own the road, they swerve in front of other drivers in the   
   > >>>> right lane to pass. I see it happen a lot, yep.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> So you think left lane blocking is an acceptable behavior. Gotcha.   
   > >   
   > >> Straw man. Fail. I never said that at all. As I said, I rarely visit   
   > >> the left lane, except to pass. It's often some other poor schmuck who   
   > >> I see getting tail gated in the left lane. And you are still ignoring   
   > >> all the other bad behavior I outlined. Wonder why?   
   > >   
   > > You are complaining about drivers who find the left lane blocked   
   > > moving over to the right lane.   
   >   
   > ...among many other behaviors I described that you seem fit to ignore in   
   > an attempt to try to excuse those who behave badly.   
      
   so far, the bulk of what you describe is due to left lane hogs, even if   
   they're not in the left most lane.   
      
   > > Since you say these drivers are the problem and not the drivers they   
   > > are going around   
   >   
   > No matter how hard you try, you will not convince me that "the guy in   
   > front of me isn't going fast enough" is an acceptable excuse for   
   > dangerous driving behavior.   
      
   then you aren't interested in facts.   
      
   go learn about traffic flow sometime.   
      
   > > logically you must find left lane blocking acceptable.   
   >   
   > Straw man again. Fail. I never said that. If you're going to make a   
   > habit of this, I'll just stop this discussion dead in its tracks, and   
   > the last word freaks can have fun with what remains.   
      
   translated: you won't admit your error.   
      
   > > If you didn't you'd complain about the LLBs who are causing faster   
   > > traffic to annoy you.   
   >   
   > Again, no matter how hard you try, you will not convince me that slow   
   > traffic is an acceptable excuse for dangerous driving behavior. You lose   
   > this argument, and I'm done with you.   
      
   of course you are, because you won't admit you're in over your head.   
      
   slower traffic is the cause, and is in fact, *more* dangerous than the   
   faster traffic you're criticizing.   
      
   > >>> Civilized people don't block the passing lane. Deal with the root   
   > >>> cause of your complaint, left lane (and apparently middle lane)   
   > >>> blockers.  A failure to keep right except to pass.   
   > >   
   > >> In your definition *every* lane is filled with blockers. As I have   
   > >> said from the start, the normal flow of traffic is 55-60 mph. The   
   > >> fast and furious pack is the exception. You seem to want to blame   
   > >> everyone but them for creating a dangerous situation.   
   > >   
   > > If you have packs of drivers doing 75, then the normal flow is not 55.   
   > > Your rolling road block is moving at 55-60, the normal flow is close   
   > > to the speed of the "furious pack".   
   >   
   > As I have said multiple times and you continue to willfully ignore, MOST   
      
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