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   Jolly Roger to nospam   
   Re: Finally, California drivers can read   
   13 Mar 14 01:48:46   
   
   XPost: comp.mobile.android, comp.mobile.ipad   
   From: jollyroger@pobox.com   
      
   On 2014-03-12, nospam  wrote:   
   > In article , Jolly Roger   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> >>>>>>> Faster drivers then go from pack to pack, neededing to find a   
   >> >>>>>>> way through each pack, often doing a Claybrook weave.   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>>> So the dangerous behavior I describe above is necessary in your   
   >> >>>>>> view?  Strange. Do you prioritize speed over safety?   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>> Seems in your opinion dangerous is going faster than you.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>>> Anyone with an average IQ can see that I described many behaviors   
   >> >>>> besides just going faster than the posted speed limit above. I   
   >> >>>> disapprove of all of the dangerous behaviors I describe above.   
   >> >>>> Trying to ignore the rest to prove a point is only going to make   
   >> >>>> you look foolish, as if you have no real argument. Wanna try again?   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Again, if you kept right except to pass they would simply pass you   
   >> >>> by on the left.   
   >> >   
   >> >> Oh, if only life were that simple. No, even when you are in the right   
   >> >> lane, someone may cut in front of you at a dangerous distance, or   
   >> >> tail gate you to try to push you to go faster so thy can get around   
   >> >> someone in the middle lane. There are all sorts of dangers that   
   >> >> driving like a fast and furious fan presents, and none of them are   
   >> >> the fault of the people who are driving safely. It really does seem   
   >> >> like you want to blame everything on the people who *aren't* acting   
   >> >> like complete idiots.   
   >> >   
   >> > Again, keep right except to pass.   
   >>   
   >> I and lots of others do just that - and yet the problem remains. Imagine   
   >> that.   
   >   
   > if the problem remains, then not everyone is doing what you say they're   
   > doing.   
      
   Riiight, because people *never* drive dangerously unless someone else is   
   forcing them to drive dangerously. You're a fucking idiot if this is   
   what you truly believe. If you practice what you preach, then you're   
   also one of the ass hats doing the dangerous driving. Do everyone a   
   favor and stop driving, fuck wad.   
      
   >> > Nobody is going to cut right if everyone keeps right except to pass.   
   >>   
   >> Wrong. I see people cut right all the time when they could use the left   
   >> lane, usually out of impatience or similar stupidity.   
   >   
   > 'all the time' ??   
   >   
   > below and in other posts, you said it's the exception.   
   >   
   > try to keep your story consistent.   
      
   Well, let's see... If 90% of the time, I don't see people driving in   
   this dangerous manner, but 10% of the time I do see it, I would call it   
   an exception, and yet still be able to say that I see this behavior   
   frequently. If you can't wrap your tiny little brain around that, you   
   have much bigger problems to deal with than traffic, and you should just   
   stay of the roads and let the grown ups do the driving, seriously. Or   
   maybe you just want to play silly word games. How old are you, anyway?   
   You argue like a child.   
      
   >> > Perhaps you could also not drive off the right rear corner of left   
   >> > lane blockers?   
   >>   
   >> I don't make it a habit to do that. Apparently you believe my   
   >> observation of dangerous behavior of others must somehow, some way be my   
   >> own fault.   
   >   
   > based on your description, you are either grossly exaggerating what's   
   > going on or you are definitely part of the problem. maybe both.   
      
   Or maybe you're just full of shit. That's much more likely.   
      
   >> > Also realize that the left lane blocker is the root cause of your   
   >> > complaint.   
   >>   
   >> Nope. The "left lane blocker" is not causing others to make dangerous   
   >> maneuvers.   
   >   
   > yes they are. that's one reason why it's illegal.   
      
   I see. And I suppose women who get raped were just asking for it. And   
   people who are murdered must have done something to deserve it as well.   
   Can I also claim that "God made me do it" whenever I do something wrong?   
   Your arguments are utterly asinine...   
      
   >> There is no reason at all someone couldn't choose to handle   
   >> that situation in a safe manner that doesn't put others' lives at risk.   
   >   
   > going around an llh is not putting anyone at risk unless it's done in a   
   > reckless manner   
      
   ...which is exactly what I have described from the beginning and time and   
   time again, yet you refuse to acknowledge in a futile attempt to change   
   the argument.   
      
   > which is unlikely.   
      
   It's not unlikely and happens frequently in some cities. You either   
   don't get out much or you are just being disingenuous in an attempt to   
   prove your silly point.   
      
   > such a driver does not need an llh to make an unsafe maneuver.   
      
   Straw man. Fail. I never said that. I said they were doing it in a   
   dangerous manner, and you continue to pretend I said something   
   different. You argue like a child.   
      
   >> Your position seem to be that it is excusable and okay to behave   
   >> dangerously on the road if you have an excuse. Sorry, but you're wrong.   
   >   
   > that's not what he's saying.   
      
   I'm glad he has you to speak up for him. Are you his mommy?   
      
   >> > You are complaining about drivers who find the left lane blocked   
   >> > moving over to the right lane.   
   >>   
   >> ...among many other behaviors I described that you seem fit to ignore in   
   >> an attempt to try to excuse those who behave badly.   
   >   
   > so far, the bulk of what you describe is due to left lane hogs, even if   
   > they're not in the left most lane.   
      
   There is a safe way to handle certain situations on the road, and many   
   unsafe ways to handle them. Nobody forces you to choose on or the other   
   - you and you alone choose whether you will drive safely or dangerously.   
    Blaming someone else for your bad behavior is childish and   
   irresponsible, and you have done it over and over again in this thread.   
      
   >> > Since you say these drivers are the problem and not the drivers they   
   >> > are going around   
   >>   
   >> No matter how hard you try, you will not convince me that "the guy in   
   >> front of me isn't going fast enough" is an acceptable excuse for   
   >> dangerous driving behavior.   
   >   
   > then you aren't interested in facts.   
   >   
   > go learn about traffic flow sometime.   
      
   I'll be sure to do that after you learn about blaming others for your   
   own mistakes.   
      
   >> > logically you must find left lane blocking acceptable.   
   >>   
   >> Straw man again. Fail. I never said that. If you're going to make a   
   >> habit of this, I'll just stop this discussion dead in its tracks, and   
   >> the last word freaks can have fun with what remains.   
   >   
   > translated: you won't admit your error.   
      
   Error? I rarely if ever use the left lane to begin with. I don't have a   
   burning need to get everywhere faster than everyone else. I prefer to   
   drive at the same speed as most other cars on the road rather than   
      
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