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   Your Name to twsherman@REMOVE_THISsouthslope.net   
   Re: Finally, California drivers can read   
   16 Mar 14 16:45:42   
   
   XPost: comp.mobile.ipad, comp.mobile.android   
   From: YourName@YourISP.com   
      
   In article , T0m $herman   
    wrote:   
      
   > On 3/15/2014 9:55 PM, Your Name wrote:   
   > > In article , T0m $herman   
   > >  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> On 3/11/2014 3:10 PM, Your Name wrote:   
   > >>> In article , DevilsPGD   
   > >>>  wrote:   
   > >>>> In the last episode of <110320141917332297%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your   
   > >>>> Name  said:   
   > >>>>> In article , DevilsPGD   
   > >>>>>  wrote:   
   > >>>>>> In the last episode of <110320141812046507%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your   
   > >>>>>> Name  said:   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> You "adjust things" when you get in. You pull over somewhere safe to   
   > >>>>>>> "adjust things". There's no need to "adjust things" while actually   
   > >>>>>>> driving.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> Given that most cars have no thermostat, and instead rely on a "hotter   
   > >>>>>> vs colder" style knob, adjusting the temperature is often necessary.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> The knobs (or in my car it's a slider) usually has a few variable   
   > >>>>> positions. In a car you drive often you would get used to what those   
   > >>>>> settings mean in terms of comfort.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Probably. However, current interior and exterior temperatures are a   
   > >>>> factor, as will be the heat of the engine in a non-thermostat-controlled   
   > >>>> car.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>>> And a safety issue, if your windows start to fog unexpected.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Yes, and you carefully pull over and stop somewhere safe to do that,   
   > >>>>> then drive off when you can actually see properly again.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> You don't actually drive much, do you? You can normally observe the fog   
   > >>>> start since it typically appears first at the edges of the windshield.   
   > >>>> You can safely drive for minutes or seconds before the windshield is   
   > >>>> obscured, or with the flip of a switch, drive indefinitely.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> It's also difficult to predict when it will or will not fog, since one   
   > >>>> of the factors is the humidity and body heat of the passenger's breath.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> "You can safely drive for minutes or seconds" ... which means you can   
   > >>> pull over safely and stop (or at worst at a red traffic light), and   
   > >>> THEN fiddle with the controls. You DO NOT fiddle with controls while   
   > >>> actually driving.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> OR simply open the window before driving.   
   > >>   
   > >> Open the window how much, and which windows?  This can only be   
   > >> determined while the vehicle is in motion (unless we build wind tunnels   
   > >> along side the road), and often requires frequent adjustments.  Your   
   > >> contention is asinine.   
   > >   
   > > I almost always have both windows on my two-door car open. In winter   
   > > they may only be open a little. If it's pouring with rain they would   
   > > stay closed, but I instead set the vents to blow on the windscreen   
   > > before I drive off. Never ever had any issues with major fogging up at   
   > > all.   
   > >   
   > > There's no need at all to keep playing with the controls. That's likely   
   > > only going to make things worse.   
   >   
   > You must drive in different conditions than I do.   
      
   About the only weather condition I don't regularly drive in is snow. We   
   get pretty much everything else here over the course of a year ...   
   sometimes all within an hour!   
      
      
      
   > Again, both the length and degree of required attention to control   
   > ventilation and heating are magnitudes lower than making a mobile phone   
   > call.   
      
   I never said anything about the equality or otherwise of their   
   complexity. I simply said they are both unnecessary distractions from   
   actually driving the car.   
      
   Of course, it depends on how complicated you car's controls are ...   
   some of the in-car electronic systems from the likes of BMW or Mercedes   
   have been extremely idiotic and cumbersome to try and use, even when   
   parked! My car has just plain old simple manual buttons, switches and   
   sliders.   
      
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