From: turnkey@q.com   
      
   On Friday, April 4, 2014 11:59:00 PM UTC-7, Daniel W. Rouse Jr. wrote:   
   > "Harry K"  wrote in message    
   > news:57049627-4da9-437a-b548-d1d0b5860862@googlegroups.com...   
   > Situation - 2lane (1 each direction) heavily traveled highway with passing    
   > opportunities sparse due to curves and hills.  Posted 60 'flow' about 65.   
       
   > ***Speed limit 60 is all that matters. "Flow" doesn't apply for a Basic    
   > Speed Law, such as California, that does not legally allow exceeding the    
   > posted speed limit.   
      
   That is legalese, not applicable in real life.  I haven't seen the "flow"   
   anywhere but ABOVE the posted in my long life of driving coast/coast N/S and   
   in every state of the union.   
      
   Even the gurus say the safest speed is "go with the flow".   
       
   > I set cruise 64/65 and rarely get passed or pass someone.  I don't even try    
   > to pass unless they are less than the posted.  Say I catch up to someone    
   > doing about 61 (happened again today) so I slow to that pace.  Okay, you are    
   > behind me, which do you prefer?   
      
       
   > *** As I once learned, the accepted margin of error for speedometers was +/-    
   > 3mph. Doing 61 in a 60 zone would be within that error.   
      
   Most cops, IME, allow about a 10% variance, eg., posted 60, start writing   
   tickets about 66.  We had a State Patrol speed emphasis campaign a few years   
   agon on the same highway I referred to.  Posted in the paper was their   
   announcement that tickets would    
   start at 66.   
      
   > 1.  that I close up to a 2second distance behind the lead to allow you to,    
   > opportunity allowing, pass both of us at once?   
       
   > *** No you keep the 2 second following distance it is my problem, it is your    
   > problem if you want to go faster and it is my problem if I expect you to get    
   > "pushed" closer.   
      
   I don't get anywhere near a 2 second distance normally, fall back to at least   
   a 10 second space.  Makes for a relaxed drive and a lot less tension.  2   
   Seconds at 60mph is too close per most gurus anyhow.   
       
   > 2.  Drop back far enough that you can pass me and then the lead in separate    
   > passes?   
       
   > ***You still keep your 2 second distance and when it's safe, then you pass    
   > first. It's my problem if I wanted to pass both of you, that would be MFFY    
   > behavior.   
   >    
       
   >    
   > Yes, I will pull over if traffic backs up but there is really no point in    
   > doing so as they will just stack up behind that lead vehicle.   
      
   > ***You have no obligation to turn out unless you are consistently below the    
   > posted limit, regardless of whether speeding traffic wants to push you into    
   > going faster or turn out.   
      
   True but I don't like being tailgated in such conditions.   
      
   Oddly, it seems like every time I encounter such slower drivers it is always   
   one that is not using CC.  The one I encountered in my OP wasn't and worse was   
   slowing down just enough to force me an others to slow going around corners   
   that could be taken at    
   easily at 80 to say nothing of his/her varying speed.   
      
   Harry  K   
      
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