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   Man charged by Ohio gestapo in use of ca   
   16 Apr 14 19:07:06   
   
   XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics, alt.politics.usa   
   XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution   
   From: lane.miller@aol.com   
      
   Note the obedient conditioned response of the concealed carry   
   gun nuts.   
      
   Kele Stanley has been charged with a felony because officials   
   say he refused to land the camera-equipped drone that he had   
   been guiding over a traffic crash scene, but he says he is no   
   idiot.   
      
   A videographer and remote-controlled airplane hobbyist, Stanley   
   admits that he twice flew his remote-controlled hexacopter —   
   which looks more like a robotic spider than a hobby plane and   
   costs about $4,000 — about 75 feet above where a pickup had hit   
   a tree on Saturday morning in Clark County’s Moorefield Township.   
      
   But he disputes the law-enforcement version that says he refused   
   to bring his drone down when authorities ordered him to because   
   a medical helicopter was about to land to transport the injured   
   driver.   
      
   “I am not an idiot,” said Stanley, who said he was shooting the   
   video as a hobby and would have turned it over to local   
   television stations, as he has done before. “If I had known that   
   Care Flight was on the way, my helicopter would have come down   
   immediately. There wouldn’t have been any dispute.”   
      
   Stanley, a 31-year-old copy-machine repairman who videotapes   
   weddings as a side business, posted his $425 bail after being   
   arrested by Clark County deputies about 10 a.m. Saturday. He had   
   his initial court appearance yesterday on a felony charge of   
   obstructing official business and misdemeanor charges of   
   misconduct at an emergency and disorderly conduct.   
      
   His case already is drawing the attention of those interested in   
   the drone issue, the regulation of which is under debate at both   
   the state and federal level.   
      
   There currently are no regulations in Ohio governing private use   
   of the unmanned aircraft. The federal government has said that   
   law-enforcement agencies must receive special permits to use   
   them but commercial use — by real-estate agents or corporations,   
   for example, that want a bird’s-eye view of something — or the   
   hobbyist’s use is so far unregulated fair game.   
      
   Peter Sachs is a Connecticut lawyer, a (real) helicopter pilot   
   and a drone enthusiast who runs the Drone Law Journal. He’s a   
   critic of the Federal Aviation Administration’s assertion that   
   it has a right to control such use.   
      
   He has watched Stanley’s case play out in social media and,   
   judging by the expensive equipment that Stanley was using, Sachs   
   said it appears he is “far from amateur.” He said he can’t   
   imagine that anyone would continue to fly knowing he could be   
   interfering with a helicopter coming in to save a life.   
      
   Sachs said the drones simply make some people nervous, so they   
   try to stop them. He sees it as a First Amendment issue: “Anyone   
   can take a view from a public place of anything happening   
   publicly."   
      
   Clark County Sheriff Gene Kelly didn’t return a call seeking   
   comment, but the criminal complaint against Stanley says he was   
   told both by fire officials and a deputy that he had to stop   
   flying and why.   
      
   Stanley said he knew there was no law against what he was doing,   
   so he put the helicopter back up after being approached by a   
   deputy. But he says the first time he heard about Care Flight   
   was after he already had brought the drone down a second time,   
   and he didn’t fly it again.   
      
   Sachs said those on both sides of the drone issue will be   
   watching the case.   
      
   “If he did do something wrong, it should come out,” Sachs said.   
   “And if he didn’t, that story needs to be told, too. Drones have   
   an unfair, bad connotation surrounding them.”   
      
   The sheriff’s office hasn’t released the name or condition of   
   the man hurt in the crash.   
      
   hzachariah@dispatch.com   
      
   Comments:   
      
   OLD VET (OLDVET)   
      
   Guilty as charged, Pay the fine(s.) Simple rule of thumb says if   
   a law enforcement officer tells you to do something at a crime   
   scene or accident scene you do it. If you think he/she was wrong   
   you can bring it up later, but defying them at the scene can get   
   you or someone else seriously injured or dead. As a concealed   
   carry licensee I can tell you that is one of the first things   
   you are taught.   
      
   2014-04-15 10:29:08.0   
      
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   ROBERT JACKSON (DOGPATCHBOB)   
      
   When the whoever authority-figure tells you to stop playing with   
   your whirly-bird toy, please conform knowing you'll be able to   
   play again and have fun again with the other boys and girls.   
   Otherwise i would think that your newfangled gyro-copter thingy   
   is a major distraction to those trying to apply their services   
   to a very fast changing situation.   
      
   2014-04-15 18:41:50.0   
      
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   JOHN HEIN (JOHNHEIN)   
      
   You guys do realize that you live in the United States of   
   America, right? If you're not breaking a law, the police can't   
   require you to do something.   
      
   2014-04-16 11:57:14.0   
      
   http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/04/15/man-   
   charged-in-use-of-camera-drone-at-accident.html   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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