From: tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com   
      
   On 2014-04-17, Harry K  wrote:   
   > On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:23:13 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:   
   >> On 2014-04-16, Harry K  wrote:   
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   >> >> Kele Stanley has been charged with a felony because officials   
   >> >> say he refused to land the camera-equipped drone that he had   
   >> >> been guiding over a traffic crash scene, but he says he is no   
   >> >> idiot.   
   >   
   >> > Yes he is.  Another case proving the old adage "You cannot win an   
   >> > argument with a cop on the side of the road"  Proper place to argue is   
   >> > at the precinct to file a complaint.   
   >   
   >> And what happens when the cop or the entire force strikes back for   
   >> filing the complaint?   
      
   > Do much paranoia?   
      
   You are neglecting a long history of what happens to people who file   
   complaints against cops in small towns to big cities. The harrassment   
   has been well documented. You chose to label and remain ignorant of it.   
      
   >> Taking on cops is a risk regardless of how one chooses to do it. There   
   >> really is no proper way. It's a game best avoided since it is one where   
   >> one slip means the mundane loses.   
   >   
   > So if you want to protest but don't because you're paranoid what do   
   > you accomplish.   
      
   What do you accomplish by filing a complaint? Ever notice that before   
   some cop's action gets media attention there is a long list of   
   complaints filed against him? They do nothing. Only when he escalates to   
   a point worthy of media attention does something happen and it happens   
   because of that action the public is aware of. The long history of   
   complaints is just a footnote. They achieved nothing.   
      
   > Argue with a cop on the side of the road - you lose EVERY TIME!   
      
   I've "won"* myself so I know you are wrong. You're just too paranoid to   
   stand up for yourself in the time and place it often really matters when   
   it can be done effectively. You'd rather file a meaningless complaint   
   after the fact that makes you feel better, but in the end you backed   
   down and obeyed in every way that mattered.   
      
   *defined as the cop backing down and leaving me alone.   
      
   > Don't argue and don't file a complaint because you're paranoid? You   
   > lost again.   
      
   Either do nothing or sue for damages. A complaint may be part of that   
   process but unless you want to go all the way by bother with a half   
   measure that effectively does nothing? One is better off going to the   
   media. Without the media nothing of significance is going to happen   
   anyway. Just filing a complaint relies on the cops policing themselves,   
   and cops have been proven to do that rather poorly.   
      
   > File a complaint and you can (and people do) win a lot of the time.   
      
   What do they win? Winnings come from lawsuits, not complaints. One   
   already lost by backing down and obeying, what is 'won' after the fact?   
   A promise the cops won't do it again? LOL.   
      
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