From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   I have found that the single act of driving a car is not evil, but forcing   
   people to drive is very evil. It's capitalism at its worst that forces us to   
   drive everywhere, often needing a jungle vehicle (SUV) to survive in the   
   jungle. But, of course, there'   
   s hope:   
      
   On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 12:15:01 PM UTC-4, rst9 wrote:   
   > On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:18:33 PM UTC-7, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble   
   Philosopher wrote:   
   >    
   > > A cheap car costs $13K, a hybrid costs at least twice as much.    
   >    
   > > How do you close the gap? How would you bring the price of technology down   
   to earth?   
   >    
   >    
   >    
   > You must have heard of a "hydrogen car",   
   >    
   > a car that uses hydrogen as fuel such as    
   >    
   > our sun is using.  The by-product of such    
   >    
   > a car is water which we need to grow our   
   >    
   > food, our trees,... which in turn produce   
   >    
   > lumber for our housing...   
      
   Are they in production?   
      
   To me the car has these issues:   
      
   - The pollution it produces   
      
   - The manufacturing process itself is very polluting   
      
   - The deadly accidents they cause   
      
   - The isolation of the car, ie. being in a cage   
      
   It seems these cars can fit a niche around the community with fewer of the   
   issues above:   
      
   NEVs or LSVs:    
      
   "The big news on the 2002 GEM is the bounce in horsepower of the 72-volt,   
   GE-built DC motor from 3.5 to 5.0, as well as a new gearbox, a revised   
   interior, and new fiberglass doors. On a percentage basis, that extra power is   
   the same as a Corvette moving    
   from 350 to 500 horsepower! In absolute terms, it's like having a   
   supplementary hedge-trimmer motor aboard. Combined with more aggressive   
   gearing, the result is an 1100-to-1280-pound machine that's not heinously   
   slow. It reaches its 25-mph top speed just    
   as the traffic packed behind it is able to move into another lane and around."    
      
   http://www.caranddriver.com/news/gem-e825-car-news   
      
   ***   
      
   If we dedicate the inner lane to Low Speed Vehicles, including the bicycle, we   
   got ourselves a solution. And the revolution is about solutions.   
      
   This is what we will do as soon as we can lay our hands on a little republic   
   (such as Donetsk People's Republic) and we can try our ideas. All these ideas   
   must be tried on the ground and promoted.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)