From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Monday, December 8, 2014 4:53:24 AM UTC-5, Malcolm McMahon wrote:   
   > On Saturday, 6 December 2014 16:01:00 UTC, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble   
   Philosopher  wrote:   
   > > Myth: The motor car is the ultimate freedom machine    
   > >    
   > > Fact: The 'freedom' promised by the motor car is largely illusory. In the   
   1950s, when roads were empty and people had a choice of alternatives, there   
   might have been something to it. Not so today when car use is compulsory for   
   most of the population    
   and usually involves sitting in traffic jams.    
   > >    
   >    
   > Depends where you live. If you live in, say, London there's such a high   
   population density that a quality public transport system is justifiable.   
   Doubt I'd keep a car if I lived there. I'd just hire one when I left.   
   >    
   > Mean traffic speeds in Central London have remained fairly constant since it   
   was horse drawn.   
   >    
   > I drive into work, and it takes me about 10-15 minutes here in York. Public   
   transport would be about 90 minutes (it would be at least two buses, with a   
   walk between), bike maybe an hour. Either would mean there was no chance of   
   doing anything much in    
   the lunch hour. So the car provides me with the freedom to get up at a   
   reasonable time.   
      
   Very reasonable. I say the freedom provided by the car is as important as the   
   freedom from the car.   
      
   I can tell you different places where I would NOT drive a car.   
      
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