From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Monday, December 8, 2014 7:22:17 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > On 2014-12-08 20:59:42 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
   >   
   > > On Monday, December 8, 2014 10:01:28 AM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > >> On 2014-12-08 08:46:35 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
   > >>   
   > >>> On Sunday, December 7, 2014 2:56:05 PM UTC-5, Ashton Crusher wrote:   
   > >>>> In every country in the world, the first thing people want as they   
   > >>>> come up out of the mud is personal transportation.   Even in China,   
   > >>>> with cities far bigger then most, and with plenty of public   
   > >>>> transportation of one sort or another, the people still hunger for   
   > >>>> personal transportation.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Right, and because of it they are choking in pollution and the world is   
   > >>> looking into the abyss of irreversible climate change.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> And they are sitting in endless traffic jams as well, so they are not   
   > >>> getting fast anywhere.   
   > >>   
   > >> And if they were actually "not getting fast anywhere [sic]"...   
   > >>   
   > >> ...they wouldn't be doing it.   
   > >   
   > > Think of the word trolley. Have they ever been fast?   
   >   
   > How is that relevant?   
   >   
   > Fact: you're trying to say that driving is futile because there are   
   > traffic jams.   
   >   
   > Clearly, the people with the most experience of the situation disagree...   
   >   
   > ...because they are CHOOSING to use their cars.   
      
   Do they have a choice?   
      
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