From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:24:00 AM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > On 2014-12-09 08:17:12 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
   >   
   > > On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 12:01:11 AM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > >> On 2014-12-09 02:11:20 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
   > >>   
   > >>> On Monday, December 8, 2014 7:22:17 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > >>>> On 2014-12-08 20:59:42 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble   
   Philosopher said:   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>> On Monday, December 8, 2014 10:01:28 AM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > >>>>>> On 2014-12-08 08:46:35 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble   
   Philosopher said:   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> On Sunday, December 7, 2014 2:56:05 PM UTC-5, Ashton Crusher wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>> In every country in the world, the first thing people want as they   
   > >>>>>>>> come up out of the mud is personal transportation.   Even in China,   
   > >>>>>>>> with cities far bigger then most, and with plenty of public   
   > >>>>>>>> transportation of one sort or another, the people still hunger for   
   > >>>>>>>> personal transportation.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Right, and because of it they are choking in pollution and the world   
   is   
   > >>>>>>> looking into the abyss of irreversible climate change.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> And they are sitting in endless traffic jams as well, so they are not   
   > >>>>>>> getting fast anywhere.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> And if they were actually "not getting fast anywhere [sic]"...   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> ...they wouldn't be doing it.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Think of the word trolley. Have they ever been fast?   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> How is that relevant?   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Fact: you're trying to say that driving is futile because there are   
   > >>>> traffic jams.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Clearly, the people with the most experience of the situation   
   disagree...   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> ...because they are CHOOSING to use their cars.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Do they have a choice?   
   > >>   
   > >> Yes.   
   > >>   
   > >> Right now, as things stand today, most people who you claim are "stuck"   
   > >> in traffic jams do have a choice.   
   > >   
   > > Well, I expected to hear what that choice was.   
   > >   
   > > Is it staying home?   
   >   
   > Are you seriously claiming that most commuters have no other choice but   
   > to drive?   
   >   
   > Tell you what:   
   >   
   > You name a city and a commute where you claim that is true.   
      
   Common, welcome to the real world. Once you depend on two buses, you are   
   grounded. The boss must be very tolerant of punctuality.   
      
   It's mostly minorities who are out of need depend on buses. It's another story   
   in NYC and other places with trains.   
      
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