From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Friday, December 12, 2014 8:31:29 PM UTC-5, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble   
   Philosopher wrote:   
   > On Friday, December 12, 2014 1:01:34 PM UTC-5, Bishop Don Kool - An American   
   Tradition! wrote:   
   > > On 12/12/2014 4:31 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:   
   > > > In article <54e458af-25e3-4d9d-a121-35509bc85c07@googlegroups.com>,   
   > > > "Free Spirit, Chief of Quixotic Enterprises"   
   > > > wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > >> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:08:49 AM UTC-5, Dave Head wrote:   
   > > >>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:38:03 -0800 (PST), "Wise TibetanMonkey, Most   
   > > >>> Humble Philosopher" wrote:   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>>> On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:17:51 PM UTC-5, Your Name wrote:   
   > > >>>>> In article ,   
   > > >>>>> Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   > > >>>>> wrote:   
   > > >>>>>> On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 12:01:11 AM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > > >>>>>>> On 2014-12-09 02:11:20 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble   
   > > >>>>>>> Philosopher   
   > > >>>>>>> said:   
   > > >>>>>>>> On Monday, December 8, 2014 7:22:17 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > > >>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>> Clearly, the people with the most experience of the situation   
   > > >>>>>>>>> disagree...   
   > > >>>>>>>>> ...because they are CHOOSING to use their cars.   
   > > >>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>> Do they have a choice?   
   > > >>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>> Yes.   
   > > >>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>> A choice of one? You could give me two at least, right?   
   > > >>>>>   
   > > >>>>> You've got way more than one .. you've got a massive choice of   
   Toyota,   
   > > >>>>> Mazda, Ford, Honda, Nissan, Suzuki, Hyundai (for poor people),   
   Ferrari   
   > > >>>>> (for rich gits), ... Then there's numerous models within those to   
   > > >>>>> choose from. ;-)   
   > > >>>>>   
   > > >>>>> If you're stuck in a traffic jam, then in a car you've got the choice   
   > > >>>>> of using a different route. Those fools on the bus are stuck with   
   just   
   > > >>>>> where the bus route says it must go, which is usually along the   
   busiest   
   > > >>>>> and most congested roads.   
   > > >>>>   
   > > >>>> You are better off sitting in traffic on the bus...   
   > > >>>>   
   > > >>>> While on the bus you've got someone to talk to. You don't see your   
   fellow   
   > > >>>> human being as competition. You may even philosophize, talk about   
   > > >>>> revolution or pick up a girl.   
   > > >>>>   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>> Better off? Are you crazy?   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>> First of all, I DON'T WANT to talk to anyone unless its maybe a   
   > > >>> friend. Talking to anyone else is just asking for trouble. Eventually   
   > > >>> you're going to say something that offends one of their weird beliefs,   
   > > >>> so its best not to start.   
   > > >   
   > > > How sad for you. I've had lovely and sometimes fascinating conversation   
   > > > with people on the bus. Sometimes even with decidedly crazy people, who   
   > > > seem to gravitate to me (I hope it's because they sense I'm not judging   
   > > > them and will treat them with the same respect I treat everybody else).   
   > >   
   > > Jeanne, you need to rethink this.   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > >>> Othwise I'm "better off" in my car where I can:   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>> Control the temperature the way I want it controlled.   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>> Play the radio at any volume I care to.   
   > > >   
   > > > That's what earbuds are for.   
   > > >   
   > > >>> Tune the radio to any source I care to.   
   > > >   
   > > > That's also what earbuds are for.   
   > > >   
   > > >> The bus allows you to talk on the phone and be social. You may use   
   Internet,   
   > > >> read a book or curse the loud PA reminding you every silly thing you   
   don't   
   > > >> care about. That PA really drives me crazy.   
   > > >   
   > > > What PA?   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > >>> Not have to wear any sort of ear covering to do the above.   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>> Smoke, drink, and or eat if I care to.   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>> Talk on my cell phone and say anything I want as loudly as I want to   
   > > >>> without anyone else knowing what I'm saying.   
   > > >   
   > > > That's what texting is for.   
   > > >   
   > > >>> Carry a self-protection weapon without violating any laws, rules, or   
   > > >>> regulations.   
   > > >   
   > > > You're not allowed to bring pepper spray or a whistle on the bus?   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > >>> Have an umbrella or raincoat along without having to plan to take it,   
   > > >>> or look ridiculous carrying it around on a morning where it is 86   
   > > >>> degrees and sunny, only to step out after work and its raining cats   
   > > >>> and dogs and 47 degrees and dark.   
   > > >   
   > > > How does taking a bus prevent you from having an umbrella? And why don't   
   > > > you have an umbrella in your desk at work for emergencies?   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > >>> Carry all my accessories without having to actually carry them. IOW,   
   > > >>> I don't have to remember to pack the GPS in a hand-carry bag, nor my   
   > > >>> sunglasses, nor any of the other things that I just leave in the car,   
   > > >>> and which are available without having to plan to have them along, or   
   > > >>> carry them off a bus at the end of a ride.   
   > > >   
   > > > That's what purses are for.   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > >> Well, I do my own show on the bus. I stand up and say "Join the   
   revolution!"   
   > > >> while handing out my fliers. Obviously they are opposed to the car if   
   that   
   > > >> means having options. Forcing the poor to drive is very cruel...   
   > > >>   
   > > >> I'm all for multimodal transportation, not because I love public   
   > > >> transportation, but because it gives me options. The way the sprawls are   
   > > >> built in America, no public transportation can be very effective. What   
   can be   
   > > >> very effective is a combination of train and bicycle. I plan to be   
   doing that   
   > > >> pretty soon, since this DecoBike in Miami Beach is totally   
   dysfunctional. I   
   > > >> waited 5 years but that was long enough. That was a cruel joke.   
   > > >>   
   > > >> America is made for the car and only Armageddon can change that.   
   > > >   
   > > > I've lived very happily in Los Angeles without a car for more than 25   
   > > > years.   
   > > >   
   > >   
   > > Your job didn't pay well, did it Jeanne?   
   >   
   > Maybe she decided to do what Jesus would have done.   
   >   
   > Different from the Christians.   
      
   The main advantage of a bus over a mundane car is that you are likely to   
   survive a collision with an SUV.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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