From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Monday, December 15, 2014 4:17:26 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > On 2014-12-15 21:02:12 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
   >   
   > > On Monday, December 15, 2014 3:49:14 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > >> On 2014-12-15 20:45:58 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
   > >>   
   > >>> On Monday, December 15, 2014 1:28:42 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > >>>> On 2014-12-15 16:36:17 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble   
   Philosopher said:   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>> On Sunday, December 14, 2014 6:57:04 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > >>>>>> On 2014-12-14 23:51:26 +0000, thekmanrocks@gmail.com said:   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Alan Baker wrote: "A lot of things were "fine" until we found a   
   better>   
   > >>>>>>>> way, you know.   That's a pretty common truth"   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Even in the cases of progress for the sake of progress itself?    
   We'll>   
   > >>>>>>>> just have to respectfully disagree there.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> No. I didn't say that.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> But the argument, "Things were fine before X" is a pretty weak one at   
   best.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Two things cars could do without:  DRLS(one less drain on the   
   battery),   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> Ummm... DRLs don't drain the battery... ...because they are used when>   
   > >>>>>> the car is running and the alternator produces more than enough power>   
   > >>>>>> to run them and keep the battery fully charged.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> and power door locks(I don't like anything that automatically locks   
   itself).   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> I kind of agree with this one. I don't particularly care for doors   
   > >>>>>> that> automatically lock myself.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Unlike automatic locks and air bags, we should concentrate on   
   > >>>>> PREVENTION. How many airbags we have nowadays? They probably save your   
   > >>>>> life but the crippling injuries and the trauma will stay with you.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> It would be easy for NHTSA to go the same way of Europe and Canada, but   
   > >>>>> they couldn't care less. Never even heard of a campaign against   
   > >>>>> distracted driving or something. Oh yes, they do pick on the drunks,   
   > >>>>> but they are not the only ones threatening our communities. Speeders   
   > >>>>> are just as dangerous if not more.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> If you define speeding as "exceeding the posted limit" that's nonsense.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I'm all for "no limits" on certain roads where drivers have a special   
   > >>> license, the rules are clear and passing on the left is mandatory.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> However speeding through communities must be controlled for these simple   
   facts:   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Every 2 hours a pedestrian dies in a traffic crash   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Rate of survival at 20mph: 90% survive   
   > >>>   
   > >>> "        "        45mph: 35% survive   
   > >>>   
   > >>> source: AARP Bulletin Dec 2014   
   > >>   
   > >> I'm not saying that there aren't valid reasons for speed limits.   
   > >>   
   > >> I'm saying that the idea that speeders--defined simply as those who are   
   > >> violating a posted limit--are more dangerous than drunk drivers is   
   > >> nonsense.   
   > >   
   > > Yes, they could be for a simple reason: They outnumber DUI drivers many   
   > > times. Again, this is only on roads where pedestrians are present or   
   > > could be present. Usually this limit is 30mph around here, but often   
   > > ignored.   
   >   
   > You still don't get it.   
   >   
   > If you lower the speed limit to 5mph, then everyone is a speeder, right?   
   >   
   > But has it really changed the reality of the roads? No.   
   >   
   > Think for a while.   
      
   So tell me, what do you think the *real speed* should be through communities?   
   Should it be 20, 30, 45 mph?   
      
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