From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:57:06 AM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > On 2014-12-16 14:23:32 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
   >    
   > > On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:13:58 PM UTC-5, Wise TibetanMonkey,    
   > > Most Humble Philosopher wrote:   
   > >> On Monday, December 15, 2014 7:38:50 PM UTC-5, thekma...@gmail.com wrote:   
   > >>> Free Spirit:   
   > >>>    
   > >>> Two-fold:  A misplaced focus on speed, and on generating revenues to    
   > >>> line the pockets of politicians.   
   > >>>    
   > >>> Like I said a couple posts back, speed is not the issue, it's what one    
   > >>> is doing/focusing on at speed.   
   > >>    
   > >> Good drivers going fast can be better than bad drivers going slow. But    
   > >> bad drivers going fast are like an unguided missile.   
   > >    
   > > Let's assume a "good driver" going fast: An idiot walks into his path    
   > > misjudging the distance and he's history. The good driver has a death    
   > > on his record.   
   >    
   > Sorry, but:   
   >    
   > 1. A good driver can avoid an idiot who just walks into his path pretty    
   > often. In order to hit a good driver, you actually have to hide your    
   > intention to jump in front of him.   
   >    
   > 2. If someone can get in front of the good driver in the window where    
   > he cannot stop, and you're willing to call that person's death    
   > unacceptable, then you are forced to set traffic speeds unreasonably    
   > low for the risk this poses.   
   >    
   > >    
   > > We have around here three lanes squeezed into two and the result is    
   > > anyone opening the cars' doors on either side of the road is gambling    
   > > his life. The speed in that area should be 20 mph but it's common to    
   > > see drivers going 40 mph or more. We should not let the good driver    
   > > make all kinds of judgement.   
   >    
   > Actually, the research from traffic engineers and others looking into    
   > it is that that is exactly what we should do.   
   >    
   > > There are all kinds of idiots out there, but the engineers are the main    
   > > issue. Why? Because they don't care. You see accidents happening in the    
   > > same area and they don't correct anything. Again, they don't care.   
   >    
   > You think that the engineers are the problem?   
   >    
   > LOL   
      
   The engineers are the main problem, drivers and pedestrians can also be part   
   of the problem. They want to accommodate the maximum volume of cars, with   
   little regard to safety. I remember the same winding road next to Woodbourne,   
   NY, changing the speed    
   limit wildly from 35 mph to 55 mph. If you followed those limits, it would get   
   you killed. But they figure nobody can follow such wild changes from one   
   section of the road to another. Same road! Hey, they are hiding everywhere   
   waiting for unsuspecting    
   drivers who failed to adjust from 55 mph to 35 mph.    
      
   And that's the whole point about it. Money, mucho dinero, predation...   
      
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