From: roamingfreeman@gmail.com   
      
   On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 2:28:21 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > On 2014-12-17 03:54:18 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
   >    
   > > On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:51:17 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > >> On 2014-12-17 00:29:33 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
   > >>    
   > >>> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:57:06 AM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > >>>> On 2014-12-16 14:23:32 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble   
   Philosopher said:   
   > >>>>    
   > >>>>> On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:13:58 PM UTC-5, Wise TibetanMonkey,> >   
   > >>>>> Most Humble Philosopher wrote:   
   > >>>>>> On Monday, December 15, 2014 7:38:50 PM UTC-5, thekma...@gmail.com   
   wrote:   
   > >>>>>>> Free Spirit:   
   > >>>>>>>    
   > >>>>>>> Two-fold:  A misplaced focus on speed, and on generating revenues to>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> line the pockets of politicians.   
   > >>>>>>>    
   > >>>>>>> Like I said a couple posts back, speed is not the issue, it's what   
   one>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> is doing/focusing on at speed.   
   > >>>>>>    
   > >>>>>> Good drivers going fast can be better than bad drivers going slow.   
   But>   
   > >>>>>>>> bad drivers going fast are like an unguided missile.   
   > >>>>>    
   > >>>>> Let's assume a "good driver" going fast: An idiot walks into his path>   
   > >>>>>> misjudging the distance and he's history. The good driver has a   
   > >>>>> death> > on his record.   
   > >>>>    
   > >>>> Sorry, but:   
   > >>>>    
   > >>>> 1. A good driver can avoid an idiot who just walks into his path   
   > >>>> pretty> often. In order to hit a good driver, you actually have to hide   
   > >>>> your> intention to jump in front of him.   
   > >>>>    
   > >>>> 2. If someone can get in front of the good driver in the window where>   
   > >>>> he cannot stop, and you're willing to call that person's death>   
   > >>>> unacceptable, then you are forced to set traffic speeds unreasonably>   
   > >>>> low for the risk this poses.   
   > >>>>    
   > >>>>>    
   > >>>>> We have around here three lanes squeezed into two and the result is> >   
   > >>>>> anyone opening the cars' doors on either side of the road is gambling>   
   > >>>>>> his life. The speed in that area should be 20 mph but it's common to>   
   > >>>>>> see drivers going 40 mph or more. We should not let the good driver>   
   > >>>>>> make all kinds of judgement.   
   > >>>>    
   > >>>> Actually, the research from traffic engineers and others looking into>   
   > >>>> it is that that is exactly what we should do.   
   > >>>>    
   > >>>>> There are all kinds of idiots out there, but the engineers are the   
   > >>>>> main> > issue. Why? Because they don't care. You see accidents   
   > >>>>> happening in the> > same area and they don't correct anything. Again,   
   > >>>>> they don't care.   
   > >>>>    
   > >>>> You think that the engineers are the problem?   
   > >>>>    
   > >>>> LOL   
   > >>>    
   > >>> The engineers are the main problem, drivers and pedestrians can also be   
   > >>> part of the problem.   
   > >>    
   > >> No. They are not.   
   > >    
   > > It's no secret that you can count some idiots among pedestrians and   
   drivers...   
   > >    
   > > But the engineers couldn't even make passing lanes part of the design.    
   > > The end result is chaos and mayhem. It's not they are stupid. They are    
   > > corrupt or they simply don't care.   
   >    
   > I'm sorry, but you're laying the blame at the feet of the wrong people.   
      
   So tell me who can change the system if not the engineers/politicians.   
   >    
   > >    
   > > This sign got me in trouble when riding a bicycle and a driver spit in    
   > > my face because of it: "Walk bicycle across bridge."   
   >    
   > Perhaps it was your charming personality.   
      
   Perhaps they thought I was usurping their road and having fun with my GF on a   
   beautiful Saturday afternoon. The guy interpreted the sign above to mean "no   
   bicycle riding on the road" and attacked, when it actually meant "no riding on   
   the sidewalk." Well    
   see, the sidewalk on the bridge is only two feet wide how can you ride a bike   
   on it.   
      
   They said later they would fix it, but, of course, everything still remains   
   the same. They actually brought the heavy machinery but nothing visible   
   changed. The pedestrians are still walking through the mud and the cyclists   
   are playing Russian roulette    
   with their lives.   
   >    
   > >    
   > >    
   > >>    
   > >>> They want to accommodate the maximum volume of cars, with little regard   
   > >>> to safety. I remember the same winding road next to Woodbourne, NY,   
   > >>> changing the speed limit wildly from 35 mph to 55 mph. If you followed   
   > >>> those limits, it would get you killed.   
   > >>    
   > >> Cite?   
   > >    
   > > Eyewitness account (myself).   
   >    
   > So you're dead, then?   
      
   Just hurt and humiliated, you know. Just the type of thing that makes people   
   get a gun and gun down people. That's why I don't carry a gun.    
   >    
   > >    
   > >>    
   > >>> But they figure nobody can follow such wild changes from one section   
   > >>> of the road to another. Same road! Hey, they are hiding everywhere   
   > >>> waiting for unsuspecting drivers who failed to adjust from 55 mph to 35   
   > >>> mph.   
   > >>> And that's the whole point about it. Money, mucho dinero, predation...   
   > >>    
   > >> Cite?   
   > >    
   > > You think they are trying to make roads any safer? They would lower the    
   > > speed limits after so many accidents, right? Well, they don't. They    
   > > just pick up the bodies, and sweep the debris.   
   >    
   > Let's see some actual statistics...   
      
   Well, let's see. Florida, Texas and Arizona --I think-- lead the nation in   
   pedestrian fatalities. I have the article somewhere. Naturally people are   
   afraid to go out in order NOT to be part of the statistic. ;)   
      
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