From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 10:09:27 PM UTC-5, Your Name wrote:   
   > In article <45022f1a-a5bc-4d00-9ad6-6adc3362ef71@googlegroups.com>,   
   > Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   >  wrote:   
   > > On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 2:37:08 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > > > On 2014-12-17 19:30:50 +0000, Free Spirit, Chief of Quixotic Enterprises   
   > > > said:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > In the process they have killed many communities, giving rise to the   
   > > > > infamous gated communities. Are you willing to pay to live in a   
   > > > > community where the kids can play? Then go to a gated communities.   
   > > >   
   > > > I'm sorry, but what evidence do you have that cars have "killed many   
   > > > communities"?   
   > >   
   > > You can't have communities without pedestrians/cyclists. What you get is   
   > > sprawl where nobody meets anyone. You must drive everywhere, and public   
   > > transportation is nearly dysfunctional.   
   > >   
   > > It's a desert with an oasis here and there. And you must drive from here to   
   > > there.   
   >   
   > That's not the car ... that started way back with the horse and cart,   
   > with small towns springing up wherever the rest stops happened to be.   
   > Then the train added to it where the train need to stop for coal and   
   > water. The car has made it quicker to get from "here to there" and   
   > means the stops along the way can be further apart as cars have become   
   > faster and use less / carry more fuel.   
   >   
   > Planes have really killed the small towns. People can now go across the   
   > entire country (and between countries) without stopping anywhere. If   
   > they ever happen, Star Trek-style teleporters will cause the end of   
   > many bigger towns that currently rely on cars, buses, trucks, and   
   > trains.   
      
   Well, the car made the s-p-r-a-w-l possible. Before you'd get cities like New   
   York, later came the cities like Los Angeles.   
      
   There are several problems with the sprawl, mainly the increased distances and   
   the deserted cities. People live in isolation and that's bad for you. Very bad.   
      
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