XPost: alt.politics, soc.women, misc.survivalism   
   From: Paula@nyet.ca   
      
   On 12/27/2014 11:23 PM, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > On 2014-12-28 01:59:46 +0000, Gunner Asch said:   
   >   
   >> On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 17:04:54 -0500, Alan Baker    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2014-12-27 20:42:33 +0000, Gunner Asch said:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 15:16:57 -0500, Alan Baker    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2014-12-27 19:19:57 +0000, Gunner Asch said:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 01:31:54 -0500, Alan Baker    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 2014-12-26 21:53:55 +0000, Gunner Asch said:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 15:47:46 -0500, Alan Baker    
   >>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2014-12-26 19:52:32 +0000, Gunner Asch said:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> A motorcycle can stop faster than a car.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but that's just not correct.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> While some very capable sport bikes on good tires may be able to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> THEORETICALLY stop faster than some cars:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> 1. It is certainly not true as a blanket statement about their   
   >>>>>>>>>>> capabilities. One of the major factors influencing maximum braking   
   >>>>>>>>>>> effort is weight transfer. The more weight transferred from rear to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> front, the less maximum grip the tires can provide. Bikes have   
   higher   
   >>>>>>>>>>> ratios for C.G height to wheelbase than cars and so transfer a   
   greater   
   >>>>>>>>>>> percentage of their weight onto the front wheel. So pick a like for   
   >>>>>>>>>>> like comparison (sport bike vs sports car) on similar tires and   
   the car   
   >>>>>>>>>>> is going to be able to brake to a stop in less distance.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Actually wringing the most braking out of a bike is far, FAR   
   harder   
   >>>>>>>>>>> than doing the same on a car.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Absolutely correct.  The bike may turn faster...but it damned well   
   >>>>>>>>>> wont stop faster than a car with 4 friction patches..IE tires   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> There's a lot more too it than that, Gunner.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> If that was all there was, then this statement would be true as well:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> "The car may turn faster...but it damned well wont stop faster than a   
   >>>>>>>>> semi-truck with 18 friction patches..IE tires"   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> :-)   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Weight.  Inertia.  And empty semis stop damned near as slowly as   
   >>>>>>>> motorcycles.  Half full semis stop prettttty fucking quickly.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I'm sorry, but you use terms as if you know what they mean...   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> ...and you don't.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Again your opinion is noted with a great lack of interest.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And yet, here you are...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Ive been "here" on misc.survivalism since 1997   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Gunner   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child,   
   >>>> miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,   
   >>>> demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.   
   >>>> Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."   
   >>>> PJ O'Rourke   
   >>>   
   >>> Here you are...   
   >>>   
   >>> ...in this thread...   
   >>>   
   >>> ...still...   
   >>>   
   >>> ...after telling me how uninterested you are.   
   >>   
   >> I  said I really wasnt interested in your opinion.   
      
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