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   Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Phi to All   
   Re: America missed the train   
   02 Jan 15 06:58:46   
   
   From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Thursday, January 1, 2015 10:33:41 PM UTC-5, Mr. B1ack wrote:   
   > On Thu, 1 Jan 2015 13:48:04 -0800 (PST), "Wise TibetanMonkey, Most   
   > Humble Philosopher"  wrote:   
   >   
   > >On Thursday, January 1, 2015 2:18:15 PM UTC-5, Mr. B1ack wrote:   
   > >> On Thu, 1 Jan 2015 09:47:02 -0800 (PST), "Free Spirit, Chief of   
   > >> Quixotic Enterprises"  wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >> >The first train from China to Spain crossed two continents,   
   > >> >leaving America behind. No, no trains. Americans don't want   
   > >> >to hear about fast trains.   
   > >> >   
   > >> >"Go West, young Han: How China and the new Silk Road threaten American   
   imperialism"   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >>    I don't think you understand the term "imperialism".   
   > >>    Google "British Empire" or "Roman Empire".   
   > >>   
   > >>    As for trains ... no, we aren't very interested. Trains   
   > >>    are 1800s tech. There's also the issue of long-establshed   
   > >>    property rights in the USA ; you actually have to PAY   
   > >>    people - decently - to snatch their land for train tracks.   
   > >>    I guess Chinese wouldn't think about that ... the govt   
   > >>    goon squads just show up and run you off at gunpoint ...   
   > >   
   > >Germany, France and Japan also have bullet trains.   
   > >   
   > >High tech, not 19th century.   
   >   
   >    GoogleEarth 'em. Germany, France, Japan ... they're   
   >    SMALL. The USA and Canada and Mexico are BIG.   
   >    You can run a train line all the way across Germany   
   >    and, at a semi-decent speed, it won't take long to   
   >    get from end to end. You can run the same train at   
   >    the same speed from Atlanta to Seattle and it'll take   
   >    you a couple of DAYS. Jetliners are just better for   
   >    the USA. Four hours -vs- 48 ... assuming the train   
   >    doesn't hit a truck or herd of cows along the way.   
      
   The article says the bullet train will get from China to Europe in two days.   
      
   The train has a cargo capacity the plane lacks.   
      
   >   
   > >The question remains, how America is going to move people?   
   >   
   >    Mid-sized jets.   
   >   
   >    Short distances, try a car or the bus.   
      
   The bus is only good in certain areas. The bicycle is the vehicle that can   
   navigate communities better. The car is only good if the roads are clear. We   
   are sitting in endless traffic jams already. What's the solution?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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