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|    Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Phi to Alan Baker    |
|    Re: Myth: The motor car is the ultimate     |
|    03 Jan 15 18:10:29    |
      From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com              On Saturday, January 3, 2015 1:35:08 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:       > On 2015-01-03 17:19:34 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher       said:       >       > > On Saturday, January 3, 2015 9:23:54 AM UTC-5, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most       > > Humble Philosopher wrote:       > >> You drivers are placing the noose around your own neck. Your radicalism       > >> doesn't even tolerate the bicycle. The bicycle infrastructure is non       > >> existent or dysfunctional. Public transportation is highly       > >> dysfunctional too. You oppose trains in the city. You oppose fast       > >> trains as well. What's next?       > >>       > >> "Carmageddon!"       > >       > > I don't think we should turn this into a class struggle issue because       > > we often are both cyclists and drivers.       > >       > > Naturally the bicycle is the most democratic vehicle of the two and the       > > one that keeps you in touch with your community. I don't think you       > > should even vote if you don't ride a bike. You don't know what's going       > > on. You don't know about crime. You don't know about broken sidewalks.       > > You don't know about corruption.       >       > More completely bullshit.       >       > >       > > Everything is dysfunctional. You think we want free facilities. No, we       > > don't want any of that. Bike lanes don't work, not connected, used for       > > deliveries. They become another excuse for corruption.       >       > I KNOW you receive free facilities.       >       > Who will pay for those if you actually eliminate car use?       >       > >       > > We want a traffic lane. That means "taking the lane" in the bike       > > culture. You want us to pay for it? OK, how about 30 bucks a year for       > > the "license." Oh don't worry, we are not going to let loose any monkey       > > on the road. Anyways the true idiots are driving already. And we don't       > > want them next to us. We want next to us scooters and slow vehicles. Oh       > > yes, those Neighborhood Electric Vehicles are cute and friendly.       >       > And if that $30 a year can't pay for all the lanes you want? Where will       > they come from?              I don't want bike lanes. I want the right lane be prioritized for slow       vehicles.              We can pay as well, but don't terrorize us.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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