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   Message 161,358 of 162,178   
   Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Phi to Alan Baker   
   Re: Myth: The motor car is the ultimate    
   03 Jan 15 18:10:29   
   
   From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Saturday, January 3, 2015 1:35:08 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > On 2015-01-03 17:19:34 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
   >   
   > > On Saturday, January 3, 2015 9:23:54 AM UTC-5, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most   
   > > Humble Philosopher wrote:   
   > >> You drivers are placing the noose around your own neck. Your radicalism   
   > >> doesn't even tolerate the bicycle. The bicycle infrastructure is non   
   > >> existent or dysfunctional. Public transportation is highly   
   > >> dysfunctional too. You oppose trains in the city. You oppose fast   
   > >> trains as well. What's next?   
   > >>   
   > >> "Carmageddon!"   
   > >   
   > > I don't think we should turn this into a class struggle issue because   
   > > we often are both cyclists and drivers.   
   > >   
   > > Naturally the bicycle is the most democratic vehicle of the two and the   
   > > one that keeps you in touch with your community. I don't think you   
   > > should even vote if you don't ride a bike. You don't know what's going   
   > > on. You don't know about crime. You don't know about broken sidewalks.   
   > > You don't know about corruption.   
   >   
   > More completely bullshit.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > Everything is dysfunctional. You think we want free facilities. No, we   
   > > don't want any of that. Bike lanes don't work, not connected, used for   
   > > deliveries. They become another excuse for corruption.   
   >   
   > I KNOW you receive free facilities.   
   >   
   > Who will pay for those if you actually eliminate car use?   
   >   
   > >   
   > > We want a traffic lane. That means "taking the lane" in the bike   
   > > culture. You want us to pay for it? OK, how about 30 bucks a year for   
   > > the "license." Oh don't worry, we are not going to let loose any monkey   
   > > on the road. Anyways the true idiots are driving already. And we don't   
   > > want them next to us. We want next to us scooters and slow vehicles. Oh   
   > > yes, those Neighborhood Electric Vehicles are cute and friendly.   
   >   
   > And if that $30 a year can't pay for all the lanes you want? Where will   
   > they come from?   
      
   I don't want bike lanes. I want the right lane be prioritized for slow   
   vehicles.   
      
   We can pay as well, but don't terrorize us.   
      
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