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   Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Phi to All   
   Re: Myth: The motor car is the ultimate    
   04 Jan 15 06:36:43   
   
   From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, January 4, 2015 3:19:45 AM UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:   
   > In article ,   
   >  "Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher"   
   >   wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Saturday, January 3, 2015 9:23:54 AM UTC-5, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most   
   > > Humble Philosopher wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > You drivers are placing the noose around your own neck. Your radicalism   
   > > > doesn't even tolerate the bicycle. The bicycle infrastructure is non   
   > > > existent or dysfunctional. Public transportation is highly dysfunctional   
   > > > too. You oppose trains in the city. You oppose fast trains as well.   
   What's   
   > > > next?   
   > > >   
   > > > "Carmageddon!"   
   > >   
   > > I don't think we should turn this into a class struggle issue because we   
   > > often are both cyclists and drivers.   
   > >   
   > > Naturally the bicycle is the most democratic vehicle of the two and the one   
   > > that keeps you in touch with your community. I don't think you should even   
   > > vote if you don't ride a bike. You don't know what's going on. You don't   
   know   
   > > about crime. You don't know about broken sidewalks. You don't know about   
   > > corruption.   
   > >   
   > > Everything is dysfunctional. You think we want free facilities. No, we   
   don't   
   > > want any of that. Bike lanes don't work, not connected, used for   
   deliveries.   
   > > They become another excuse for corruption.   
   > >   
   > > We want a traffic lane. That means "taking the lane" in the bike culture.   
   You   
   > > want us to pay for it? OK, how about 30 bucks a year for the "license." Oh   
   > > don't worry, we are not going to let loose any monkey on the road. Anyways   
   > > the true idiots are driving already. And we don't want them next to us. We   
   > > want next to us scooters and slow vehicles. Oh yes, those Neighborhood   
   > > Electric Vehicles are cute and friendly.   
   >   
   > I always love those militant cyclists that are so quick to lecture   
   > anyone driving a car on the legalities and rights of bicyclists to use   
   > the road, then promptly blow through the very next stop sign they come   
   > to, or ride up onto the sidewalk whenever stopping for a light is   
   > inconvenient for them.   
   >   
   > I had one lycra-clad asswipe go nuclear on me because I nearly hit him   
   > as I was backing out of my driveway. As usual he started ranting about   
   > his rights to use the road being just as important as mine, blah, blah,   
   > blah. I waited until he stopped to suck in a breath, then pointed out   
   > that he was traveling the wrong way down a one-way street, and that he   
   > would have been mostly at fault legally if a collision had occurred, and   
   > that the rights to use the road of which he's so proud also come with a   
   > concomitant responsibility to obey the same rules and laws as every   
   > other vehicle on those roads, and maybe he should kindly shut the fuck   
   > up until he stops being such a goddam hypocrite about it.   
   >   
   > His face went beet-red and he huffed off without another word--   
   > continuing down the street the wrong way, no less.   
      
   I'm talking another kind of cyclist like the one we find in the Netherlands.   
   They did it through an extensive network of bike facilities, but given the   
   current level of corruption in our government it could never be accomplished.   
      
   Other ways must be found to reduce traffic and give people the right to ride a   
   damn bicycle without harassment. If I ride legally on the road, I will come   
   under attack sooner or later. Some asshole will send me to the sidewalk.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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