From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, January 4, 2015 9:42:22 AM UTC-5, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble   
   Philosopher wrote:   
   > On Sunday, January 4, 2015 2:32:48 AM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > > On 2015-01-04 07:27:01 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
   > >   
   >   
   > > What I know is that public transit as it is today depends on there   
   > > being enough drivers in cars to pay for it.   
   >   
   > Do you think the public transit of NYC is paid by drivers as well? It's only   
   in the suburbs where public transportation struggles. The sprawl was built   
   around the car and there lies the problem. But now we are talking about   
   solutions, right?   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > > People in Norway and the Netherlands pay their fair share for gas, that   
   > > > is twice as much as you do.   
   > >   
   > > And where have I said I'd object to paying that much?   
   >   
   > Sure but first we need to take care of corruption. No matter how much money   
   you throw into the system, it will find its way into the black hole of   
   corruption.   
      
   Firstly we need something like "SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING" brought to watch   
   corruption. Bike facilities themselves are a target of corruption. You see   
   something on a Google map marked "bike friendly" and I would not dare ride on   
   those roads.   
      
   Drivers are the sacred cows, perhaps because they are being a milked. Last   
   candidate to propose raising the tax on gasoline was Ross Perot and look how   
   quickly he was attacked by the press. No president will dare rise the tax.   
      
   We cyclists and pedestrians are worth nothing because we contribute nothing.   
   Our sidewalks were abandoned a long time ago. Let the senior citizens pay for   
   them. Nothing free in the land of the free.   
      
   How much you want me to pay to get a damn license to ride a bike?   
      
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