From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, January 4, 2015 1:10:24 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > On 2015-01-04 14:42:22 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
      
   > > Do you think the public transit of NYC is paid by drivers as well?   
   >    
   > I know it is. They take in only 52% of their operating costs from fares.   
      
   You are going to have a hard time figuring out who pays for what. Then you   
   will have essential services cut off and nobody pays for nothing. We shouldn't   
   pay for military expenditure to begin with if it means securing more oil. I'm   
   talking about Iraq.   
      
   I don't know where you got the 52% for NYC but the option is to cut public   
   transportation off and go back to... right, the horse and the bicycle. Isn't   
   it funny you deny the only transportation option --the bicycle-- that requires   
   no massive investment    
   and subsidies?   
      
   >    
   > > It's only in the suburbs where public transportation struggles. The    
   > > sprawl was built around the car and there lies the problem. But now we    
   > > are talking about solutions, right?   
   >    
   > You're mostly talking fantasies.   
      
   What is a fantasy, the suburbs or the lack of transportation options?   
   >    
   > >>    
   > >>>    
   > >>> People in Norway and the Netherlands pay their fair share for gas, that   
   > >>> is twice as much as you do.   
   > >>    
   > >> And where have I said I'd object to paying that much?   
   > >    
   > > Sure but first we need to take care of corruption. No matter how much    
   > > money you throw into the system, it will find its way into the black    
   > > hole of corruption.   
   >    
   > Assumes facts you've not proven.   
   >    
   > In other words, more bullshit.   
      
   Oh corruption is a fantasy. I see money being wasted everywhere... How do you   
   call it? You want some pictures?   
      
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