From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, January 4, 2015 2:53:41 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > On 2015-01-04 19:39:13 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
   >    
   > > On Sunday, January 4, 2015 1:10:24 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > >> On 2015-01-04 14:42:22 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
   > >    
   > >>> Do you think the public transit of NYC is paid by drivers as well?   
   > >>    
   > >> I know it is. They take in only 52% of their operating costs from fares.   
   > >    
   > > You are going to have a hard time figuring out who pays for what. Then    
   > > you will have essential services cut off and nobody pays for nothing.    
   > > We shouldn't pay for military expenditure to begin with if it means    
   > > securing more oil. I'm talking about Iraq.   
   >    
   > I know that a system that only recovers HALF of what it costs is not a    
   > solution.   
      
   I'm willing to listen to your solution. Double the fares or abandon NYC   
   transit system to their own fate? Let it decay and make people of NYC city   
   leave all that decadent city and join the rest of America. They'll buy a car   
   and fulfill the American dream    
   or nightmare.   
      
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   > >    
   > > I don't know where you got the 52% for NYC but the option is to cut    
   > > public transportation off and go back to... right, the horse and the    
   > > bicycle. Isn't it funny you deny the only transportation option --the    
   > > bicycle-- that requires no massive investment and subsidies?   
   >    
   > "Deny"? Where have I "denied" the bicycle?   
      
   If you deny space for the bicycle it may be said you deny the bicycle.   
      
   They can't fly.   
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   > >>    
   > >>> It's only in the suburbs where public transportation struggles. The> >    
   > >>> sprawl was built around the car and there lies the problem. But now we>    
   > >>> > are talking about solutions, right?   
   > >>    
   > >> You're mostly talking fantasies.   
   > >    
   > > What is a fantasy, the suburbs or the lack of transportation options?   
   >    
   > Your fantasy that people live longer in NYC because they drive less...   
   >    
   > I could go on, but why?   
      
   Because we are a BIPEDAL SPECIES and you need to keep walking and moving. We   
   are not sedentary by nature and we are we pay a price.   
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   > >>    
   > >>>>    
   > >>>>>    
   > >>>>> People in Norway and the Netherlands pay their fair share for gas, that   
   > >>>>> is twice as much as you do.   
   > >>>>    
   > >>>> And where have I said I'd object to paying that much?   
   > >>>    
   > >>> Sure but first we need to take care of corruption. No matter how much>    
   > >>> > money you throw into the system, it will find its way into the black>    
   > >>> > hole of corruption.   
   > >>    
   > >> Assumes facts you've not proven.   
   > >>    
   > >> In other words, more bullshit.   
   > >    
   > > Oh corruption is a fantasy. I see money being wasted everywhere... How    
   > > do you call it? You want some pictures?   
   >    
   > I call vague accusations of corruption a fantasy.   
      
   Well, then we need to review some pictures so you tell me what it means.   
      
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