From: roamingfreeman@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, January 4, 2015 5:46:14 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > On 2015-01-04 22:43:11 +0000, Free Spirit, Chief of Quixotic Enterprises   
   said:   
   >   
   > > On Saturday, January 3, 2015 1:35:08 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:   
   > >> On 2015-01-03 17:19:34 +0000, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher   
   said:   
   > >>   
   > >>> On Saturday, January 3, 2015 9:23:54 AM UTC-5, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most   
   > >>> Humble Philosopher wrote:   
   > >>>> You drivers are placing the noose around your own neck. Your radicalism   
   > >>>> doesn't even tolerate the bicycle. The bicycle infrastructure is non   
   > >>>> existent or dysfunctional. Public transportation is highly   
   > >>>> dysfunctional too. You oppose trains in the city. You oppose fast   
   > >>>> trains as well. What's next?   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> "Carmageddon!"   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I don't think we should turn this into a class struggle issue because   
   > >>> we often are both cyclists and drivers.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Naturally the bicycle is the most democratic vehicle of the two and the   
   > >>> one that keeps you in touch with your community. I don't think you   
   > >>> should even vote if you don't ride a bike. You don't know what's going   
   > >>> on. You don't know about crime. You don't know about broken sidewalks.   
   > >>> You don't know about corruption.   
   > >>   
   > >> More completely bullshit.   
   > >>   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Everything is dysfunctional. You think we want free facilities. No, we   
   > >>> don't want any of that. Bike lanes don't work, not connected, used for   
   > >>> deliveries. They become another excuse for corruption.   
   > >>   
   > >> I KNOW you receive free facilities.   
   > >>   
   > >> Who will pay for those if you actually eliminate car use?   
   > >   
   > > "Eliminate car use?"   
   > >   
   > > I tell you drivers tend to be radical. I want to retire the bad drivers   
   > > so the other forms of transportation as well as the good drivers can   
   > > enjoy more room.   
   >   
   > I want to require all drivers to be good drivers... ...or lose their   
   > right to drive.   
      
   Well, we need those SPEED CAMERAS to start separating the good drivers from   
   the bad drivers.   
      
   Hint: Good drivers don't go speeding on city streets. They should have a   
   working passing lane on freeways.   
      
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