On Tuesday, February 5, 2002 at 8:12:18 PM UTC-7, Judy Diarya wrote:   
   > Why should any "law-abiding citizen" need a device that is used solely   
   > for committing a crime  -  a serious crime that kills thousands of   
   > innocent americans a year.   
   >    
   > BTW - I've heard that texas bans the sale of radar detectors, though   
   > presumably not their use.  Anyone know if that's true.   
      
   Thankfully in the ~12 years since the thread started many of the stupid and   
   down right ignorant assumptions related to safety and actual comfortable, safe   
   and engineering based travel speeds ver's political not science or engineering   
   based posted limits.   
      
   First as of today, The NMSL of 55 was and always will be irrelevant to the   
   actual safe, comfortable and engineering based speed across the US on our   
   coast to coast high/freeway system.   
      
   Knowing that today 42 states, 16 states have dropped the idea of political not   
   based in any real engineering or science based posted maximums. Raising their   
   posted maximum for optimal conditions to 70, 75 & 80 mph today on our coast to   
   coast highway/   
   freeway/interstate system!!!!!   
      
   Today only a few states in the north east, alaska & hawaii(60) have stuck to   
   this less than useless idea, something that 70+ years of DOT collected stats   
   say makes travel less safe of still having under posted political arbitrary   
   limits of 55/65.    
      
   55/65 is a speed based on a political idea not on engineering or safety. The   
   NMSL was always a limit which had no basis in design or engineering. NMSL   
   based posted maximums which in no way match what is the safe, comfortable and   
   engineering based maximum    
   actually is, 70+ years of DOT data says they do not improve safety.    
      
   These irrelevant to actual safe, comfortable and engineering based maximum   
   travel speeds in optimal conditions are ignored by all. including the police.   
   This fact gives these states no actual numerical limit on rural and urban   
   freeways. Other than what    
   speed drivers feel safe, comfortable that matches the engineering design today   
   of the freeways, highways and vehicles. In places which over the last few   
   years have raised the posted limit to match actual observed travel speeds, the   
   85th percentile speed,    
   !!no change in observed travel speeds has occurred!!!   
      
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