From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   (I say it's the bicycle, but let's not fool ourselves. Sometimes it's too much   
   struggle. The car is never the vehicle of liberation. Multimodal   
   transportation mode is best.)   
      
   On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 3:02:10 PM UTC-5, (PeteCresswell) wrote:   
   > Per Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher:   
   > >I think it would be a great idea. The car is a symbol of the white man and   
   his   
   > >exploitation system. Yeah, I think the car is a racket, not a convenience   
   or a   
   > >symbol of freedom. The horse and the bicycle are a symbol of freedom.   
   >   
   > Close family friend was a civil engineer for the Shanghai city   
   > government back when Shanghai had to make some decisions about   
   > transportation infrastructure development - because automobile use was   
   > rapidly expanding.   
   >   
   > Among the presenters was an outfit from Australia whose theme was that   
   > Shanghai already had a huge base of people who used bicycles as their   
   > main form of transportation and that they should not seek to accommodate   
   > motor vehicles.   Instead, they should concentrate on further   
   > bicycle-oriented development.   
   >   
   > During most of the presentation, one of the very senior engineers could   
   > be heard muttering in Mandarin.   The Aussies understood only English.   
   >   
   > At the very end, he shouted out something.   
   >   
   > After it was all over, one of the Aussies asked somebody bilingual to   
   > tell them what the older engineer was said.   
   >   
   > What he said was "You guys are sooooo full of shit!....Have you *ever*   
   > had to go *everywhere* on a bicycle?"   
   > --   
   > Pete Cresswell   
      
   I'm not surprised that the Chinese --of all people-- want to get rid of the   
   bicycle as a symbol of repression. They are also struggling with gigantic   
   traffic jams and polluted air.   
      
   Taiwan uses the scooter as a smarter option. Take into account that in the   
   mountains the bicycle can become too much struggle.   
      
      
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