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|    Hey Davey Hogg! Suspect in Toronto van r    |
|    24 Apr 18 15:23:32    |
      XPost: fl.politics, tor.bizarre, sac.politics       XPost: talk.politics.guns, can.politics, alt.politics.immigration       From: emailbarry@yahoo.com              Well dumb-assed Davey Hogg?              Are you going to demand that cars be restricted and banned now? You       obsequious little gun-fearing prick?              TORONTO — A 25-year-old suspect accused of mowing down pedestrians       with a van in a busy Toronto shopping district was ordered held       Tuesday on 10 counts of first-degree murder — one for each of the       victims in an attack whose motives remain unclear.              Authorities said Monday’s carnage did not trigger a national security       threat, suggesting it was not initially viewed as having possible       terrorism links.              But investigators have not offered further details on what may have       led the driver to plow his rented van through crowds on a warm spring       afternoon — claiming at least 10 lives and leaving more than a dozen       others injured. Police arrested the suspect at the scene and       identified him as Alek Minassian.              In a Toronto court Tuesday, Minassian wore a white prison jumpsuit       with his hands cuffed behind his back. The judge read the charges,       which also included 13 counts of attempted murder.              Minassian confirmed his name for the court. He then answered “yes”       when asked if he understood a court order not to have any contact with       the victims or their families.              The next hearing was scheduled for May 10. Minassian was ordered held       pending a possible bail hearing.              In the meantime, officials are attempting to piece together the       planning and motives of a suspect who was not previously on any law       enforcement watch lists. Witnesses said the van jumped a curb and       roared through a crowded pedestrian zone in what appeared to be a       deliberate act.              At a news conference Tuesday, Detective Sgt. Graham Gibson said that       “the accused is alleged to have posted a cryptic message on Facebook”       minutes before he began his attack. The Facebook post referred to a       misogynistic online subculture for “involuntarily celibate” men. But       police declined to say whether they were investigating the post, much       less whether they considered it a clue to a possible motive.              Facebook “found and immediately deleted the suspect’s Facebook       account,” a company spokesman said in an emailed statement to The       Washington Post. One post, which Facebook confirmed had been posted       from his account shortly before the account was shut down, praised       “Supreme Gentleman Elliot Rodger,” who killed six people in Santa       Barbara, Calif., in 2014.              Rodger, who died from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound after       the 2014 attack, left behind an extensive digital history, including a       YouTube video in which he vowed a “day of retribution” against the       women who had sexually rejected him. Rodger’s online history indicated       he may have identified himself as an “incel,” or an involuntary       celibate, and of the anti-feminist “manosphere.”              The post on Minassian’s Facebook account contained references to this       online subculture. “The Incel rebellion has already begun!” it read.       “We will overthrow all of the Chads and Stacys!” Incels refer to       popular, sexually attractive people as Chads and Stacys, a term meant       as an insult.              Neither Facebook officials nor police have confirmed that Minassian       wrote the post that appeared on his account. The Washington Post could       not ascertain the exact timing of the post — or whether it was       published when the suspect had access to his account.              Gibson said the victims of Monday’s attack were “predominantly female”       but that he could not say whether they were deliberately targeted. The       first victim to be publicly identified was Anne Marie D’Amico, an       employee at the investment management firm Invesco, which has its       Canadian headquarters on Yonge Street, where the attack occurred.              South Korea’s Foreign Affairs Ministry said in a tweet that two of its       nationals were killed in the attack, and an official at the Jordanian       embassy in Canada said that one Jordanian was among the dead.              Ontario Chief Coroner Dirk Huyer said at a news conference Tuesday       that identifying the victims was his “number 1 priority,” and he       appealed to the public for help.              At a makeshift memorial set up near the scene of the attack, people       wiped away tears as they left flowers, teddy bears and candles. They       wrote messages of condolence in several languages; others handed out       juice boxes to police officers conducting a forensic investigation at       the scene.              Many of those gathered said they were shocked that the       vehicle-as-weapon attacks that they had seen happen elsewhere could       take place in their own back yards.              Sandra Chartrand, who lives near the location of the attack, said she       arrived roughly half an hour after the incident.              “People were running around hectically, and I watched police officers       cover up some bodies with orange tarps,” she said. “I walk here       everyday, and it will be a constant reminder of what happened.”              Ari Blaff, who went to high school with Minassian at Thornlea       Secondary School north of Toronto, said he was “in disbelief” when he       saw that Minassian was accused of carrying out the attack.              Blaff said that Minassian was quiet and kept to himself but was never       violent. He recalled Minassian repeating that he feared girls but that       he did not remember him being misogynistic.              “We thought it was just strange behavior from a guy in high school,”       Blaff said.              In a news conference Tuesday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said the       incident was a “senseless attack and a horrific tragedy.”              Trudeau added that the attack “hasn’t changed the overall threat level       in Canada” although it took place as envoys from the Group of Seven       industrialized nations met in Toronto.              Canada’s defense minister confirmed Tuesday that Minassian was a       member of the country’s armed forces for two months beginning in       August 2017. He voluntarily left the service after 16 days of recruit       training, the minister said without providing further details.                     Toronto’s police chief identified the driver as Minassian, of Richmond       Hill, Ontario. Minassian, who was not carrying a weapon, was taken       into custody after a showdown in which he brandished an object and       told officers, “Shoot me in the head.”              Police cordoned off a home on Elmsley Drive, a quiet street in the       suburb of Richmond Hill, while they searched for clues. Home property       records show that the home belongs to Vahe and Sona Minassian.              While Canadians are proud of living in a country where crime rates are       generally low and ethnic diversity is celebrated rather than feared,       several terrorism-related incidents in recent years have reminded the       public that Canada is not immune to the kinds of events that have       struck Europe and the United States.              In September, Abdulahi Hasan Sharif was arrested in Edmonton, Alberta,              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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