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   banjo Jon to Miracles Are Seen In Light   
   Re: The First in Eternity is God the Fat   
   18 Sep 24 18:01:30   
   
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   From: nobody@nospam.com   
      
   On 9/18/2024 1:12 PM, Miracles Are Seen In Light wrote:   
   > On 9/17/2024 11:40 PM, Miracles Are Seen In Light wrote:   
   >>> "The first in time means nothing, but the First in eternity is God the   
   >>> Father, Who is both First and One.  Beyond the First there is no other,   
   >>> for there is no order, no second or third, and nothing but the First."   
   >>>   
   >>> "You who belong to the First Cause, created by him like unto himself and   
   >>> part of him, are more than merely guiltless.  The state of guiltlessness   
   >>> is only the condition in which what is not there has been removed from   
   >>> the disordered mind that thought it was.  This state, and only this,   
   >>> must you attain, with God beside you.  For until you do, you will still   
   >>> think that you are separate from him."   
   >>>   
   >>> "When you have let all that obscured the truth in your most holy mind be   
   >>> undone for you, and therefore stand in grace before your Father, he will   
   >>> give himself to you as he has always done.  Giving himself is all he   
   >>> knows, and so it is all knowledge.  For what he knows not cannot be, and   
   >>> therefore cannot be given.  Ask not to be forgiven, for this has already   
   >>> been accomplished.  Ask, rather, to learn how to forgive, and to restore   
   >>> what always was to your unforgiving mind.  Atonement becomes real and   
   >>> visible to those who use it.  On earth this is your only function, and   
   >>> you must learn that it is all you want to learn."   
   >>>   
   >>> "You need not understand creation to do what must be done before that   
   >>> knowledge would be meaningful to you.  God breaks no barriers; neither   
   >>> did he make them.  When you release them they are gone.  God will not   
   >>> fail, nor ever has in anything.  Decide that God is right and you are   
   >>> wrong about yourself.  He created you out of himself, but still within   
   >>> him.  He knows what you are.  Remember that there is no second to him.   
   >>> There cannot, therefore, be anyone without his holiness, nor anyone   
   >>> unworthy of his perfect love.  Fail not in your function of loving in a   
   >>> loveless place made out of darkness and deceit, for thus are darkness   
   >>> and deceit undone.  Fail not yourself, but instead offer to God and you   
   >>> his blameless Son.  For this small gift of appreciation for his love,   
   >>> God will himself exchange your gift for his."   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> "Before you make any decisions for yourself, remember that you have   
   >>> decided against your function in Heaven, and then consider carefully   
   >>> whether you want to make decisions here.  Your function here is only to   
   >>> decide against deciding what you want, in recognition that you do not   
   >>> know.  How, then, can you decide what you should do?  Leave all   
   >>> decisions to the One Who speaks for God, and for your function as he   
   >>> knows it.  So will he teach you to remove the awful burden you have laid   
   >>> upon yourself by loving not the Son of God, and trying to teach him   
   >>> guilt instead of love.  Give up this frantic and insane attempt that   
   >>> cheats you of the joy of living with your God and Father, and of waking   
   >>> gladly to his love and holiness that join together as the truth in you,   
   >>> making you one with him."   
   >>>   
   >>> "Unless you are guiltless you cannot know God, Whose Will is that you   
   >>> know him.  Therefore, you *must* be guiltless.  Yet if you do not accept   
   >>> the necessary conditions for knowing him, you have denied him and do not   
   >>> recognize him, though he is all around you.  He cannot be known without   
   >>> his Son, whose guiltlessness is the condition for knowing him. Accepting   
   >>> his Son as guilty is denial of the Father so complete, that knowledge is   
   >>> swept away from recognition in the very mind where God himself has   
   >>> placed it.  If you would but listen, and learn how impossible this is!   
   >>> Do not endow him with attributes you understand.  You made him not, and   
   >>> anything you understand is not of him."   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > "Love is not learned.  Its meaning lies within itself.  And learning   
   > ends when you have recognized all it is not.  That is the interference;   
   > that is what needs to be undone.  Love is not learned, because there   
   > never was a time in which you knew it not.  Learning is useless in the   
   > Presence of your Creator, Whose acknowledgment of you and yours of him   
   > so far transcend all learning that everything you learned is   
   > meaningless, replaced forever by the knowledge of love and its one   
   > meaning."   
   >   
   > - A Course in Miracles, Chapter 18, Section 9   
   > "The Passing of the Dream," "The Two Worlds"   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >>> "Your task is not to make reality.  It is here without your making, but   
   >>> not without you. You who have tried to throw yourself away and valued   
   >>> God so little, hear me speak for him and for yourself.  You cannot   
   >>> understand how much your Father loves you, for there is no parallel in   
   >>> your experience of the world to help you understand it.  There is   
   >>> nothing on earth with which it can compare, and nothing you have ever   
   >>> felt apart from him resembles it ever so faintly.  Would you know of One   
   >>> Who gives forever, and Who knows of nothing except giving?"   
   >>>   
   >>> - A Course in Miracles, Chapter 14, Section 4 (5pdf)   
   >>> "Teaching for Truth," "Your Function in the Atonement"   
   >>> https://tinyurl.com/A-Course-In-Miracles-pdf   
      
   As I don't understand what you're trying to say, I doubt if you do, either.   
      
   Please explain in layman's terms.   
   >   
      
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