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   Marion to P. Coonan   
   Re: Will Iowa pass a hands-free driving    
   24 Jan 25 22:08:09   
   
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   From: marion@facts.com   
      
   On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 20:26:10 -0000 (UTC), P. Coonan wrote :   
      
      
   > killed by distracted drivers   
      
   The problem with these laws is that they're not based on actual science.   
   They're based on religious beliefs.   
      
   Nobody has ever shown an increase in accident rates from the slowly   
   lowering trend from before cellphones existed, to while the ownership rates   
   were skyrocketing, to long after they plateued at about 100% ownership.   
      
   Nobody.   
      
   Well, almost nobody - since those who make money off of religious beliefs   
   certainly are "claiming" cherry-picked accident "statistics", namely:   
    a. Insurance companies (who make money from the laws)   
    b. Police agencies (who make money from the laws)   
    c. Accident lawyers (who make money from the laws)   
      
   If you remove those above who have a vested interest in making money off of   
   "claiming" accident rates which never changed - you can't find them.   
      
   Try it.   
   LOOK for the accident rates for the three stages of import:   
    Stage I: From 1920s to just before cellphones were in common use   
    Stage II: The short period of skyrocketing cellphone ownership rates   
    Stage III: After the plateau   
      
   Nobody (not you, not anyone) can find the increase in accident rates that   
   they themselves predict - which is the definition of a religious belief.   
      
   They believe in it.   
   And yet, even they can't find it.   
      
   Because, it doesn't exist.   
   Yet, they strongly believe it does.   
      
   Just like religion.   
   Everyone who claims the rates went up is simply fabricating that claim.   
      
   It's a religious belief.   
   Nothing more. Nothing less.   
      
   Pure religion.   
   Devoid of facts backing up the strongly held belief system.   
      
   So be it.   
   You can't change that people believe in religions.   
      
   Nor can you change that governments make laws based on religions.   
      
   The fact is that driving has always entailed handling distractions.   
   And, yes, cell phone use while driving certainly an added distraction.   
      
   But there is no evidence in the USA public record of reliable statistics   
   compiled by the US Census Bureau since about the 1920's that there has been   
   any measurable effect on US accident rates - which is an accurate   
   statistic.   
      
   If you google for statistics, you'll never find them except from the   
   aforementioned three agencies who make money off of the religious laws.   
      
   Even then, when you LOOK at their statistics, you see they're cooked.   
   Every single one of them.   
      
   There is no reliable evidence that cellphones increased the accident rate.   
   None.   
      
   And there are good reasons for that fact.   
   But you have to first LOOK for the evidence before you're ready for that.   
      
   In summary, those who believe in this religion do so sans any facts.   
   It's their right to believe in bogus belief systems - which I don't deny.   
      
   But when governments make laws based on religion, that's where I balk.   
   These laws are based on pure religious emotion. Not on actual facts.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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