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|    Leroy N. Soetoro to All    |
|    This Isn't Your Father's Weed - and It's    |
|    15 Oct 25 00:29:01    |
      XPost: alt.politics.marijuana, alt.politics.republicans, sac.politics       XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns       From: leroysoetoro@americans-first.com              https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2025/10/07/how-high-weed-tied-to-40-       percent-of-fatal-car-crashes-n4944564              Its been six years since legal weed went on sale in Ohio and now it       seems nearly half the stoners in fatal crashes forgot to just stay home       and eat their Cheetos. A new Wright State University study showed that       more than four out of 10 deadly car crashes included a driver with high       levels of THC in their bloodstream.              The study, just published in the Journal of the American College of       Surgeons, reviewed data for 246 deceased Ohio drivers, and found an       average THC blood level of 30.7 ng/ML 15 times the state's legal limit        in 41.9% of dead drivers. Ohio is a fairly typical state in most regards,       so I'd take that 42% as a good-enough approximation of trends in states       with legal weed.              Almost a dozen years have passed since legal weed first went on sale in       Colorado and Oregon, so the numbers, high as they are (heh), don't       surprise me. But the report is also frustrating in the context that it       lacks. What percentage of fatal crashes involved weed before 24 states       legalized recreational sales?              The closest we get to that side of the issue is this item from the ACS       writeup: "The rate of drivers who tested positive for THC did not change       significantly before or after legalization (42.1% vs. 45.2%), indicating       that legal status did not influence the behavior of those who chose to       drive after use."              The study only reaches back six years by which time medical marijuana,       often a fig leaf for recreational use, had already been legal for four       years. Prior to medical (and then recreational marijuana) becoming more       widely available, there wasn't nearly as much testing making the data       frustratingly incomplete.              The best I could come up with was setting Grok loose on the problem. Even       Grok sounded a bit frustrated with the lack of data, but what it could       find for THC-impaired dead drivers varied wildly from 1.1% in a single       1994 study, all the way up to 9% in 2000.              But both are a far cry from the 42% found much more recently in Ohio.              Is availability to blame? Potency? Both?              It's been said many times before, but this is not your father's weed.              For personal reasons I won't bore you with, 36 years ago, 19-year-old me       moved to Eureka, Calif. deep in Humboldt County. Or as we used to call       it, "Behind the Redwood Curtain." My running joke was that there were       three kinds of people in Humboldt: the hippies, the loggers, and me (and       my weird friends).              Humboldt was famous among pot connoisseurs for the notoriously strong       Humboldt Homegrown, mostly out of farms around Garberville. Hikers and       campers were advised on how to safely back away if they happened to       stumble upon a pot-growing field nestled in the redwoods.              Testing wasn't as frequent back then, but even the prized Homegrown rarely       ran above a concentration of 15% THC. The stuff Humboldt State University       hippie-wannabes could usually find was probably around 10-12%, and they       bragged about it to their friends back home.              And Another Thing: HSU (now Cal Poly Humboldt) back then had a surprising       number of kids from nice families in Los Angeles. Their parents sent them       north to get them away from the L.A. drug scene. Out of the cocaine frying       pan, into the weed and shrooms fire. SMH.              The point of sharing my somewhat ridiculous backstory is that the super-       powerful weed that you had to go to Humboldt or a bit later, to British       Columbia to buy just semi-reliably on the black market would barely pass       muster with ordinary, everyday pot smokers shopping at a legal dispensary       today.              Here in Colorado, the average THC concentration of the legal stuff is       approximately 21%, based on comprehensive lab testing of weed statewide.       That's just the average concentration.              Frogurt a name-brand grown and sold in Michigan tests at 41%.       Something called Future #1 is up to 37% THC, and the Permanent Marker       brand runs at an average of 34%.              Back in the day, the hard-to-find 15% stuff was the much-sought-after       "one-hit weed." The average pot today is 50% stronger. But for people       willing to pay a little more, they can get stuff four times more powerful       than much of anything your typical 1990 dorm-room smoker enjoyed behind       the Redwood Curtain.              The industrial-scale pot-growing enabled by legalization made the stronger       concentrations possible, probably even inevitable. Easy availability       changes the equation, too. Around 2000, 5% or so of adults reported       "regular" pot use of at least once a month. In 2024, that number was 15%.              But cultural conditions have changed greatly since 2000. People were       likely less willing back then to answer positively. So we just don't know       what the true figures are, but if the trendline is up for regular pot       smoking, then the trendline for potency is way up.              About the only thing we can conclude with any certainty is that you'd have       to be stoned out of your gourd to think it's a good idea to drive while       impaired.                     --       November 5, 2024 - Congratulations President Donald Trump. We look       forward to America being great again.              We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so that       stupid people won't be offended.              Every day is an IQ test. Some pass, some, not so much.              Thank you for cleaning up the disasters of the 2008-2017, 2020-2024 Obama       / Biden / Harris fiascos, President Trump.              Under Barack Obama's leadership, the United States of America became the       The World According To Garp. Obama sold out heterosexuals for Hollywood       queer liberal democrat donors.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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