From: pc+usenet@asdf.org   
      
   Some disagreement chez Phil - 'er indoors was 100% NOR, but I liked   
   the way VER clawed his way back to the top, so can't be persuaded to flip.   
      
   Phil   
   --   
   We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have   
   gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast   
   aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.   
   -- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)