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   Mark  wrote:   
   > a425couple  wrote:   
   >> On 3/11/24 16:38, Woozy Song wrote:   
   >>> Interesting part is that Bernie knew Piquet Jr. crash was deliberate,   
   >>> but didn't investigate until end of season.   
   >>   
   >> Yes, "Interesting".   
   >>   
   >> And that is what gives this old controversy legitimate   
   >> legs.  The officials knew improprieties took place   
   >> in the points awarded, and yet they kept quiet about it,   
   >> and hoped 'the wrongness' would just stay a secret.   
   >>   
   >> It did not.   
   >   
   > Several things make no sense to me. The first is why you would spend so   
   > much money relying on the testimony of an old man who is less than   
   > reliable.  The second is his apparent certainty that the FIA would have   
   > to cancel the entire race result if they found wrongdoing...even though   
   > precedent suggests (Schumacher, McLaren, etc.) the team and/or driver   
   > would lose points not the entire race being cancelled. The third thing   
   > is that anyone would see it as "fair" to change the results after the   
   > fact. While drivers do their best to maximise points, you take different   
   > decisions and more risks if you are more points away, so a different   
   > result in one race could well have (for better or worse) change the   
   > subsequent races. You simply can't unpick these things "fairly".   
   > Choosing the one change that happens to hand you a title...many years   
   > after the fact...is being very selective.   
   >   
   > This is going to be messy all-round. Ecclestone is going to prove a very   
   > unreliable witness (he has already), and most of the others known to be   
   > involved are either dead (Mosley) or have reasons not to get involved   
   > (Nelsinho, Briatore, Alonso). Unless they have a smoking gun bit of   
   > evidence, just proving the case will be hard. Getting precisely the   
   > outcome they desire will be harder. This will be ruinously expensive,   
   > make Massa look like a *very* sore loser and open a can of worms that   
   > cannot end well.   
   >   
   > (Don't get me wrong, I feel sorry for Massa and how this has played out.   
   > He's not the first driver to lose out on a title because of luck, and he   
   > won't be the last. Attempting to litigate your way around this is going   
   > to tarnish rather than burnish his reputation IMO).   
      
   I agree with everything you say and see nothing good for Massa in the whole   
   affair..   
      
   Hamilton had a much better case for challenging the result of the 2021 WDC   
   but he decided to suck it up and not litigate.   
      
   --   
   Sir Tim   
      
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