From: geoff@geoffwood.org   
      
   On 7/08/2024 1:32 pm, Alan wrote:   
   > On 2024-08-06 18:28, Geoff wrote:   
   >> On 6/08/2024 12:56 am, ~misfit~ wrote:   
   >>> On 5/08/2024 10:27 am, Geoff wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/08/2024 3:26 am, Alan wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2024-08-01 05:35, ~misfit~ wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 1/08/2024 9:29 pm, Sir Tim wrote:   
   >>>>>>> ~misfit~  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Lando's relatively poor performance at Spa I think is down to him   
   >>>>>>>> not being able to keep the win in the previous race. He took a   
   >>>>>>>> psych hit   
   >>>>>>>> realising that the team   
   >>>>>>>> he's spent so long developing with don't value him as much as he   
   >>>>>>>> thought   
   >>>>>>>> they did and don't   
   >>>>>>>> consider him to be number one.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Yes. IIRC, Lando committed to a long contract with, what was   
   >>>>>>> then, a team   
   >>>>>>> in the doldrums. That act of faith deserves a reward.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I agree. Without the unwavering services of such a talented driver   
   >>>>>> they couldn't have developed the car as much as they have. It's as   
   >>>>>> much Lando's car as it is the design team's who built it around   
   >>>>>> him. Oscar will have his day but the present and near future at   
   >>>>>> McLaren IMO should belong to Lando when it comes down to the team   
   >>>>>> deciding who wins a race.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> McLaren fairly clearly had an agreement about keeping the order of   
   >>>>> finish the same as immediately prior to the final pit stops of the   
   >>>>> race.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Norris was right to swap places if he agreed to that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And if he had done it earlier, the presumably they would have been   
   >>>> free to subsequently race. Shoots himself in foot....   
   >>>   
   >>> How could he be free to race if they agreed to keep the order the   
   >>> same as prior to the final pit stop? Lando's no dullard, if that was   
   >>> an option he'd have taken it.   
   >>   
   >> We cannot know the details, but I would imagine such an agreement   
   >> would relate to  routine' pitstops , and not strategic ones like this.   
   >   
   > What is the difference between a "routine" and a "strategic" pitstop?   
   >   
   > Both Piastri and Norris were on a two stop strategy.   
      
   And PIA's second stop was stragetic for a specific defensive purpose   
   (for NOR's benefit) as opposed to any pre-planned tyre stragety which   
   would not have had him so disadvantaged.   
      
   Which is why NOR was leaned on to give the place back.   
      
   geoff   
      
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