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   ~misfit~ to Geoff   
   Re: Sainz to Williams   
   08 Aug 24 19:04:59   
   
   From: shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/08/2024 1:28 pm, Geoff wrote:   
   > On 6/08/2024 12:56 am, ~misfit~ wrote:   
   >> On 5/08/2024 10:27 am, Geoff wrote:   
   >>> On 2/08/2024 3:26 am, Alan wrote:   
   >>>> On 2024-08-01 05:35, ~misfit~ wrote:   
   >>>>> On 1/08/2024 9:29 pm, Sir Tim wrote:   
   >>>>>> ~misfit~  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Lando's relatively poor performance at Spa I think is down to him   
   >>>>>>> not being able to keep the win in the previous race. He took a psych   
   hit   
   >>>>>>> realising that the team   
   >>>>>>> he's spent so long developing with don't value him as much as he   
   thought   
   >>>>>>> they did and don't   
   >>>>>>> consider him to be number one.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Yes. IIRC, Lando committed to a long contract with, what was then, a   
   team   
   >>>>>> in the doldrums. That act of faith deserves a reward.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> I agree. Without the unwavering services of such a talented driver they   
   couldn't have   
   >>>>> developed the car as much as they have. It's as much Lando's car as it   
   is the design team's   
   >>>>> who built it around him. Oscar will have his day but the present and   
   near future at McLaren   
   >>>>> IMO should belong to Lando when it comes down to the team deciding who   
   wins a race.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> McLaren fairly clearly had an agreement about keeping the order of finish   
   the same as   
   >>>> immediately prior to the final pit stops of the race.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Norris was right to swap places if he agreed to that.   
   >>>   
   >>> And if he had done it earlier, the presumably they would have been free to   
   subsequently race.   
   >>> Shoots himself in foot....   
   >>   
   >> How could he be free to race if they agreed to keep the order the same as   
   prior to the final pit   
   >> stop? Lando's no dullard, if that was an option he'd have taken it.   
   >   
   > We cannot know the details, but I would imagine such an agreement would   
   relate to  routine'   
   > pitstops , and not strategic ones like this.   
      
   Yep. However Lando would know and, if what you suggest was an option you can   
   bet he'd have done it.   
   He is usually quite a bit faster than Oscar later in the race.   
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