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   News to Alan   
   Re: Brake graphics   
   09 Jul 25 15:21:01   
   
   From: News@Group.Name   
      
   On 7/9/2025 3:07 PM, Alan wrote:   
   > On 2025-07-05 08:34, Eric wrote:   
   >> On 2025-07-04 9:51pm, Alan wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Finally, when they show the overlay, the brake thermometer shows the   
   >>> gradual easing off of the brakes as the car turns in, and you can see   
   >>> just how deep into the corner they trailbrake.   
   >>   
   >> That's really cool - I'm going to watch for this.   
   >   
   > As a racing driver, it's far more interesting to watch how the driver   
   > rolls of the brakes (both for reductions in grip as the car slows and   
   > loses downforce, and as turning into the corner starts to require some   
   > lateral grip).   
   >   
   > The only thing I can think of for why they haven't been showing this   
   > previously is that too many of the teams considered this somehow a   
   > "secret" that they didn't want to reveal to the other teams.   
   >   
   > But the concepts of:   
   >   
   > Lessening maximum deceleration with decreasing speed, and;   
   >   
   > Needing the use even less brake once you start to steer into a bend   
   > (look up "friction circle")...   
   >   
   > ...well they're not really secrets and no one does them very differently   
   > anymore.   
   >   
   > Back in late 1960s and early 1970s it was Jackie Stewart (among others   
   > I'm sure) who started emphasizing the importance of how you come off the   
   > brake pedal as much as it was important to get on the brake pedal   
   > quickly to threshold braking.   
      
      
   In the middle-late 1960s, Mark Donohue popularized the 'friction circle'   
   concept and trail braking, both to other RRDC drivers and generally.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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