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   Alan to News   
   Re: Brake graphics   
   11 Jul 25 11:30:32   
   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-07-09 15:21, News wrote:   
   > On 7/9/2025 3:07 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >> On 2025-07-05 08:34, Eric wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-07-04 9:51pm, Alan wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Finally, when they show the overlay, the brake thermometer shows the   
   >>>> gradual easing off of the brakes as the car turns in, and you can   
   >>>> see just how deep into the corner they trailbrake.   
   >>>   
   >>> That's really cool - I'm going to watch for this.   
   >>   
   >> As a racing driver, it's far more interesting to watch how the driver   
   >> rolls of the brakes (both for reductions in grip as the car slows and   
   >> loses downforce, and as turning into the corner starts to require some   
   >> lateral grip).   
   >>   
   >> The only thing I can think of for why they haven't been showing this   
   >> previously is that too many of the teams considered this somehow a   
   >> "secret" that they didn't want to reveal to the other teams.   
   >>   
   >> But the concepts of:   
   >>   
   >> Lessening maximum deceleration with decreasing speed, and;   
   >>   
   >> Needing the use even less brake once you start to steer into a bend   
   >> (look up "friction circle")...   
   >>   
   >> ...well they're not really secrets and no one does them very   
   >> differently anymore.   
   >>   
   >> Back in late 1960s and early 1970s it was Jackie Stewart (among others   
   >> I'm sure) who started emphasizing the importance of how you come off   
   >> the brake pedal as much as it was important to get on the brake pedal   
   >> quickly to threshold braking.   
   >   
   >   
   > In the middle-late 1960s, Mark Donohue popularized the 'friction circle'   
   > concept and trail braking, both to other RRDC drivers and generally.   
      
   Yup.   
      
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