From: shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/07/2025 5:10 am, Sir Tim wrote:   
   > ~misfit~  wrote:   
   >> On 10/07/2025 5:37 am, dmunz wrote:   
   >>> Ok, but why now? Why not wait until the break?   
   >>>   
   >>> I don’t buy all the VES noise.   
   >>>   
   >>> I wonder if it has more to do with the Ferrari moves rumor.   
   >>   
   >> There's talk that after the allegations Horner faced the Verstappen camp   
   >> wanted him gone. Now that   
   >> RBR are desperate to keep Verstappen and his exit clause has been   
   >> triggered (by lack of points)   
   >> they hope that getting rid of Horner will encourage Max to stay.    
   >> Buggered if I know...   
   >   
   > Of course the situation at RBR is complex and many of the reports about it   
   > are mere supposition but it is known that, when Dietrich Mateschitz and   
   > Chaleo Yoovidhya founded Red Bull they each took a 49% interest in the   
   > business with the remaining 2% going to Chaleo’s son, Chalerm.   
   > When Dietrich Mateschitz died his son, Mark, inherited his father’s   
   > interest in the business and he seems to have formed the opinion that   
   > Christian Horner had too much control over the racing team. He may have   
   > suspected that Horner planned a coup, in which RBR would become a separate   
   > entity, with himself as owner.   
   > This supposition is not too far fetched in view of the fact that neither   
   > Horner, nor Adrian Newey, have ever been offered shares in the RBR   
   > business.   
   > Any attempt by the Austrian faction to get rid of Horner was frustrated by   
   > the fact that he always had the support of the Thais.   
   > Recently, however, things have not been going well for Horner: vital team   
   > members: Adrian Newey, Rob Marshall and Jonathan Wheatley have all left the   
   > team; Horner took the incomprehensible decision to retain Sergio Pérez (and   
   > extend his contract) and he faced an internal investigation (which cleared   
   > him) of inappropriate behaviour towards his personal assistant, Fiona   
   > Hewitson (it probably did not help that arch stirrer, Jos Verstappen,   
   > allegedly, has tender feelings for Hewitson).   
   > It surely cannot be a coincidence that the recent transfer of a 2% stake in   
   > Red Bull GmbH from Chalerm Yoovidhya to Fides Trustees SA, a trust company   
   > registered in Geneva was followed almost immediately by the sacking of   
   > Horner.   
   > As far as Max Verstappen’s future is concerned, if I were he, I would   
   > abandon RBR just as soon as contractual arrangements allow. The RBR team   
   > seems to be in meltdown and I have very little faith in its ability to   
   > produce a competitive engine next year.   
   >   
   Yeah, complex machinations going on behind the scenes...   
      
   Thanks for the info, I didn't know that Chalerm had sold his (?) stake. It   
   seems an odd thing to do   
   considering that perhaps he now controls / owns his father's 49%?   
   --   
   Shaun.   
      
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