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   >> remedies are credible or can/will be enforced.   
   >>   
   >> I think that the very best he can hope for is a bit of a payout and and   
   >> an apology, and I don't think any compensation will be anywhere near the   
   >> scale of what he's asking. In practice, though, I doubt this will go   
   >> anywhere if he insists on taking it to conclusion.   
   >>   
   >> Which brings me to *my* big question? Who's putting him up to this? The   
   >> lawyers will know that this is a tough case to win. This feels like a   
   >> personal vendetta, and one that will cost Massa not just time and money,   
   >> but also his reputation. He left that season with his head held high and   
   >> I respected him for the way he dealt with disappointment. Now, he seems   
   >> rather bitter and "small".   
   >   
   > I hope Massa gets the satisfaction he's looking for, which seems largely a   
   > matter of pride but also financial recompense (although I'd be surprised   
   > if he gets anyuthing like the 80 million or so dollars he asking for...).   
   >   
   > To your other follow-up post, if it is found that Ecclestone/Mosley hushed   
   > it up, then yes I too would love to see Bernie forced to part with money,   
   > but also think it would be entirely fair for the FIA to have to pay out   
   > for the actions of its former President.   
      
   My issue - at the heart of it - is that there is not a way to "fix"   
   this. And if there was a wrong done (in addition to what Renault did),   
   it was done to all the drivers, teams and fans. The only way in which   
   this can be uniquely framed as being of particular focus on Massa is if   
   you accept his claim - which I don't - that he would definitely have   
   been WDC if this hadn't happened, and that his apology, compensation and   
   reputation reflect that version of reality.   
      
   There is certainly a case that things might have been different and he   
   might have won the WDC had Singapore been different. There is also (IMO)   
   a more likely reality where the cheating was found and the points   
   reallocated to non-Renault drivers and the gap was wider. No-one can   
   know though, and this feels like more about ego and pride than simply   
   fairness.   
      
   Oh well. It feels pretty dodgy, though.   
      
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