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   Look165 to All   
   Re: Terminology   
   20 Dec 18 10:22:27   
   
   From: look165@numericable.fr   
      
   I would say an offset sawtooth.   
   Or a sawtooth with DC component.   
      
   The definition of 180° is not inversion, it is delayd by half a period.   
      
   Try the "inversion" with a asymetrical signal and see the result, though   
   it is periodic.   
      
   Exemple : MMMM.... delayed  by half a period gives MMMM..... ; try to   
   invert it ! (something like WWWW).   
      
   On a scope, you would see the same trace since it is triggered even with   
   a dual-channel.   
      
   Sorry for my "French English" !   
      
      
   jurb6006@gmail.com a écrit :   
   > You may have seen me rail against how the schools teach that inversion is   
   the same thing as 180 degrees out. Out of phase, by definition or etymology or   
   whatever the fuck at least strongly implies that THIS signal is THAT signal   
   but has gone though    
   something that has delayed it by ½ its period.   
   >   
   > Now, these two waveforms, say applied to a CRO (and ALWAYS own a CRO as long   
   as you shall live) and syncing, they look the same as long as they are   
   symmetrical. But we have two types of symmetrical.   
   >   
   > Consider:   
   >   
   > ¯|_|¯|_|¯|_|¯|_|¯|_|¯|_|   
   >   
   > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\   
   >   
   > And:   
   >   
   > /|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|   
   >   
   > Or as my Wavtek will put out:   
   >   
   > /|_/|_/|_/|_/|_/|_/|_/|_/|   
   >   
   > With a dead time that is half the sawtooth wave.   
   >   
   > Now, we should all know this, it is not that hard of a concept. But how is   
   it expressed ?   
   >   
   > If I was the word chooser of the world, a sawtooth wave would be called   
   "Symmetrical in period" but NOT "Symmetrical in polarity".   
   >   
   > What are the proper terms for that ?   
   >   
      
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