From: pallison49@gmail.com   
      
   default the bulshitter wrote:   
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   > Phil Allison   
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   > >> >> > The aaa alkaline batteries went out on my tv remote.   
   > >> >> >   
   > >> >> > I decided to use my NiMh UBL aaa batteries. 1100 mAh.   
   > >> >> >   
   > >> >> > They are currently showing 1.31 volts.   
   > >> >> >   
   > >> >> > And they work ok in the remote as is.   
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   > >> >> > My charger is the manual type.   
   > >> >> >   
   > >> >> > It charges that type at 150 mA.   
   > >> >> >   
   > >> >> > I want them fully charged since they are 1.2 volts versus 1.50 for   
   the alkaline.   
   > >> >> >   
   > >> >> > I would like to know how much longer to charge them.   
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   > >> >> ** The correct procedure is to discharge the cells fully and then   
   apply a full recharge cycle  -  8 hours in your case.   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> If you must recharge partly discharged cells, then it takes whatever   
   time needed until their temperate just starts to rise. Constant monitoring by   
   you is needed.   
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   > >> >>   
   > >> >> ...   Phil   
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   > >> >I have no way of monitoring temp.   
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   > >> >How do I fully discharge the cells manually?   
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   > >> >Andy   
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   > >> If they are unused, it is best to charge low self-discharge NiMH every   
   > >> nine to twelve months. Do NiMH batteries need to be completely   
   > >> discharged before charging? No, NiMH batteries do not have a memory.   
   > >> They can be charged without adverse effect at any point regardless of   
   > >> their state of charge.   
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   > >** Fraid you did not read the question, the OP wanted to know HOW LONG to   
   charge his cells with his existing charger.   
   > >   
   > >There is NO way to know that without first discharging them.   
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   > Mmm, and then he might use the recommended recharge time and get an   
   > even charge in each, assuming of course, the batteries he's using are   
   > the same capacity that was available when the charger was purchased,   
   > and the batteries still retain their label capacity.   
   >   
      
    ** Results will be fine even if the cells are somewhat degraded.   
      
     If they are a whole lot degraded, then all bets are off of course.   
      
     You are clutching at straws and ignoring the OPs question.   
      
      
   > Not having a   
   > wealth of information on his charger I'd go with an intelligent   
   > charger.   
   >   
      
    ** Way outside the OPs question and argumentative.   
      
      
      
   > >>   
   > >> Get a quality charger that monitors each battery under charge   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >** An expensive and unnecessary option.   
   >   
   > Yup a smart chargers for (AAA-AA X4) costs about $10-20,   
   >   
      
   ** Post a link, ones that monitor each cell and cut off automatically and   
   reliably are not so cheap.   
      
      
      
   > But given the cost of batteries, or how "mission critical" the   
   > application is, or how much hassle one is willing to put up with to   
   > save a buck or two, the relatively small difference in price   
   > overwhelmingly favors the expense IMO.   
   > >   
      
    ** The OP already has the cells, they cost little and you are way over   
   -interpreting the situation.   
      
      
   > >   IOW - a wank.   
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   > >> Monitoring temperature is over-kill IMO and not the best method.  It   
   > >> is too dependent on ambient temperatures, air flow, etc..   
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   > >   
   > >** Utter bullshit.   
   > >   
   > >Long as one has fingers on the ends of one's hand, a user can easily   
   monitor a small temp rise that takes hours to happen.   
   > >   
   > >Ambient and air flow have SFA to do with it.   
   >   
   >   
   > I'd tend to agree with you.   
      
      
   ** The why don't you shut up.   
      
      
   ( snip pile of drivel )   
   >   
   > I used a calibrated digital thermometer, not my fingers.  (after my   
   > fingers told me I might have a problem...)   
   >   
      
   ** All TOTALLY irrelevant to merely detecting a small temp rise.   
      
   > I dunno about you, but I never argue with empirical results,   
      
      
   ** No, but I do sometimes argue with bullshitting idiots like you.   
      
      
      
      
   > >> Old Nickel Cadmium cells required discharging to get the full capacity   
   > >> out of them.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >** A well worn myth that applies only to cells made in the 1960s.   
   > >   
   > >   Bet not too many of them are still working...   
   >   
   > "About 22% of portable rechargeable batteries sold in Japan in 2010   
   > were NiMH"  Wikipedia.   So, with the exception of some small SLA   
   > batteries that would imply that NiCads were still going strong.   
   >   
      
   ** What the fuck has that got to do with with "cells made in the 1960s" ???   
      
    Ignoring what has actually been posted is this fool's ONLY skill.   
      
      
      
   > Actually the Chinese are still unloading some NiCads in things like   
   > solar powered lights and such - I took some apart that I just bought.   
   >   
      
    ** Ones I bought in the last 10 year all contained NiMH ells.   
      
   FYI:   
      
   NiCd cells have been banned from sale across the EU under RoHS rules for many   
   years. Cadmium is a prohibited metal, even CdS photo cells are banned.   
      
      
      
   > You're a rude insufferable bastard most of the time, and   
   > (infuriatingly)  right most of the time;  but this time you are WRONG.   
   > >   
      
    ** No, I am right this time too.   
      
    YOU are one rude, insufferable, pedantic, PITA old fool.   
      
      
      
      
   .....  Phil   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)