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|    Peter Percival to tabbypurr@gmail.com    |
|    Re: 45v out of a bridge rectifier, what     |
|    14 Oct 19 20:40:16    |
      From: peterxpercival@hotmail.com              tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:       > On Saturday, 20 July 2019 18:35:38 UTC+1, Peter Percival wrote:       >> Phil Allison wrote:       >>> Ralph Mowery wrote:       >>>       >>>       >>>>       >>>> All of that is well and good.       >>>>       >>>> However, is that going to be peak, average, rms or just what that the       >>>> origional question wanted. Is there going to be a capacitor to smooth       >>>> out the voltage, or is the full wave rectified DC going to be used ?       >>>>       >>>> Lots of unasked questions in the origional question.       >>>>       >>>       >>>       >>> ** The original Q is a pile of utterly ambiguous drivel.       >>>       >>> If Q posters would simply reveal the PURPOSE of their question, ambiguity       would disappear and useful answers become possible.       >>>       >>> But no, they want to play at being smart and be in control the answers by       NOT revealing any such damn thing.       >>>       >>>       >>>       >>> .... Phil       >>       >> Oh dear.       >>       >> I am looking at Fig 3.6 on p 42 of Marston's /110 operational amplifier       >> projects for the home constructor/. The circuit depicted is that of a       >> power supply delivering 3-30V at 0-1A. It is to be supplied with "+40       >> to 45V (unregulated)". The text has nothing to say about where that       >> comes from. I have decided to use a bridge rectifier attached to the       >> secondary of a transformer with 240(ish)V primary; and I wish to know       >> what secondary I need.       >>       >> The "2amps" in my OP was a guess of mine that if the PS delivers 1amp,       >> then 2amps in would be more than enough.       >       > A bit of an old post, but one that never got a fair answer.       > To get 40v out, you need 40x 0.707 ac input = 28.3v rms plus the diode drop       of the bridge which under load will be 2x 1-2v. If we guess 1.5v diode drops       under load then you'd need 31.3v in. That much has mostly been covered       already, though a lot of EEs        mistakenly think diodes drop 0.65v all the time.       >       > However there are 2 other factors not so far addressed.       > First, the reservoir cap will charge to its peak v but then decay until       recharged. You need to supply a bit more V to counter the decay for 100th of a       second.       > Second, there is mains voltage variation to consider. If you want the psu to       be reliable & meet mains voltage specs it needs to get enough V to the       regulator when V_mains is at the lowest it is permitted to go, which is a fair       bit under nominal voltage.       >       > Finally you should only need a 1A supply, parasitic drain is trivial in any       normal 1A V reg.       >       > And really finally, check the reg can dissipate the power at full load when       mains V is max, I_out is max & V_out is min. And ensure you have sound       short/overload protection.       >       >       > NT       >       Thank you. Much obliged!              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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