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|    RobH to amdx    |
|    Re: Schmitt Triggers    |
|    12 Feb 20 15:29:28    |
      From: rob@despammer.com              On 12/02/2020 15:20, amdx wrote:       > On 2/12/2020 7:33 AM, amdx wrote:       >> On 2/12/2020 6:41 AM, RobH wrote:       >>> On 12/02/2020 11:28, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:       >>>> On Wednesday, 12 February 2020 10:29:32 UTC, RobH wrote:       >>>>       >>>>> I could not measure the resistance of the ldr correctly as it was       >>>>> either       >>>>> off scale on the meter, or a negative resistance, depending on       >>>>> which way       >>>>> round I had the positive and common leads on it.       >>>>>       >>       >>       >>>>> The Vc of the resistor voltage in the dark is 4.8v       >>>>> The Vc of the resistor voltage in the light is 6.8v       >>       >>       >>   With these measurements is the resistor a 33k ohm?       >>       >>       >>       >>>>>       >>>>>       >>>>> Apologies for any confusion I may have caused.       >>>>       >>>> If you're measuring an LDR as negative resistance, something is       >>>> seriously wrong with what you're doing.       >>>>       >>>       >>> Fair enough, and I may just give up with it then.       >>       >>   No need for that.       >>   First make sure the ldr is out of the circuit.       >> We want to measure the resistance of the ldr all by it's self.       >>       >>   When you try to measure yours (it may be different than the graph)       >> You can't use your fingers, the meter will measure you (especially in       >> the dark)       >>   Make sure the ldr is dark (zero light can enter) and connect the meter       >> in the high resistance mode, (some meters need to me set for high       >> resistance) try measuring a 1M resistor to be sure. Connect to the ldr       >> using clip leads or whatever you have so you don't have your fingers       >> involved.       >>   Record the dark resistance.       >> Then put your light on it and measure the light resistance.       >>   record the resistance.       >>       >> What are those numbers?       >>       >> Here's a page with a graph showing how the resistance of an ldr       >> changes with the amount of light on it. It's about 1/4 page down.       >>       >>   The graph shows one that when dark was 1M ohm of resistance, and       >> when there is a LOT of light on it, it goes down to about 100 ohms.       >>       >>                                      Â          Mikek       >       > >Yes the measurements were taken with the 33k resistor in circuit       > >       > >Ok I didn't realize you meant taking the ldr out of the circuit.       > >       > >The resistance of the ldr in normal daylight is about 5k ohms, and in       > >darkness , about 32M ohms. If I moved the ldr into a black area, then       > >the meter went off or out of scale.       >       > So know that we know the resistance in the light is 5k, we know what       > voltage different values of series resistor will cause.       > This it the circuit, VCC--resistor--ldr--grd       >  If you use a 5K series resistor the Vcc will be split in half, (in       > the dark). Let's assume 9v Vcc, so 4.5v. If you raise the resistor value       > to 10k ohms, the voltage will drop to 3.3v, 15k and the voltage will       > drop to 2.25k, 20k and the voltage will drop to 1.8v. if you use 100k       > the voltage will drop to 0.43v.       >  When you go to dark the ldr resistance will increase and these       > voltages i just mentioned will increase.       >  I suggest you build that ldr resistor circuit and measure the voltages       > in light and dark. You should see about 8.9V and 0.5v. Remember the       > light needs to be the same as when you measured the ldr with you meter.       >       > Here is a voltage divider calculator to show you how the differing       > resistances will change the voltage. Put in your Vcc. Set R1 value as       > your whatever your series resistor is, and R2 as the resistance of your       > ldr, (in this case 5k ohms in the light.) Change values to see how it       > works.       >  I'm sorry if this all takes you the long route to making the thing       > work, but I think you should understand how it works so you can optimize       > to your lighting conditions.       >                             Mikek       >                             Mikek                     There was no page which you referred to in the previous that I could see       any link to, and there is no link to a voalage divider page if that is       what you mean.              All I want to do now is add a buzzer which will work when the led comes on.              Thanks              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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