XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv   
   From: hex@unseen.ac.am   
      
   On 01/09/2022 15:28, Tweed wrote:   
   > Norman Wells  wrote:   
   >> On 01/09/2022 11:01, Charlie+ wrote:   
   >>> I just worked out that in my (UK) house (with my children long gone!).   
   >>> The electric standby items are going to cost £452 UKP per year at   
   >>> October 2022 going forward cap levels, and of course more again at the   
   >>> next cap level(s) in 2023.   
   >>>   
   >>> I have used 52 pence per kWh and 58 pence per day service charge. YMMV.   
   >>> Measurement was taken at the supply meter with no items full running.   
   >>>   
   >>> As a quick reference it works out that every 1 Watt on standby (October   
   >>> 22 to December 22) is going to cost about 5.10 UKP over a year.   
   >>>   
   >>> Standby items Include: PIR detectors, radios, Desktop computer+perifs   
   >>> (but no printer), TV, TV boxes, players, washing machine, dishwasher,   
   >>> AirCon, timers, boiler, chargers, HiFi, etc,etc.   
   >>> (the laser colour printer was gobbling 20W continuous to keep itself   
   >>> warm on standby so I keep it fully switched off except when in use and   
   >>> it is excluded from the cost figure above).   
   >>>   
   >>> My standby figure also includes some essential "always on" items but   
   >>> only at their standby level.   
   >>> Fridge, cooker, microwave, deep freeze, and Land line DECT phone base   
   >>> come in this category.   
   >>> Also my BB Router(7W) and alarm system which are full on all the time   
   >>> albeit at low-ish consumption levels.   
   >>>   
   >>> So I think your standby items are maybe worth a thought. A plug-in Watt   
   >>> meter is useful for finding out which things are hogs to run on standby!   
   >>> C+   
   >>   
   >> Every single watt you 'consume' ends up as heat after doing what you   
   >> want it to.  And heat is useful stuff you need most of the year. If you   
   >> don't get it from your electricals, you'll need to get it from something   
   >> else that costs you money.  So, what you think you'll gain by turning   
   >> everything off is likely to be considerably less than you calculate.   
   >>   
   >> Besides, you can't escape any 'service charge', so you won't save any of   
   >> that.   
   >   
   > But your electrical heat costs about 4 times your gas heat, and is also   
   > unwanted in summer.   
      
   Summer doesn't usually last long, and gas boilers have variable   
   efficiency down in some cases to about 60% whereas electricity   
   conversion to heat is universally 100%.   
      
   The best way to save on your energy bills this winter is actually to go   
   on holiday for a month somewhere warm.  Turn off everything at home and   
   it could be worth a £500 discount off the price.   
      
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